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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
New York, NY
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...boys will be boys.
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Chatsworth
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Shack,
Where can I get pure AMN?
Juan
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JuanDeFuca
Big Wall climber
Chatsworth
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This is the best thread I have seen in my 15 years on the internet.
Shack should write a climbing/explosives manual.
Juan
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yo
climber
NOT Fresno
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"This is the best thread I have seen in my 15 years on the internet." haahahaha
Spent CO2 cartridges, like from pellet guns and stuff, those are cool too. When we were ten my friend made like a dozen of those, drilling out the hole, adding powder, and sealing them up with waterproof fuses. Excellent for swimming pools, portapotties, dumpsters, etc. Have a Huffy or Diamondback standing by for quick egress.
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Landgolier
climber
Arlington, VA
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Speaking of acetylene, anybody here old school enough to have used calcium carbide caving lamps? "Just add water..."
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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Juan..
the tannerite link I posted above for the exploding targets...
that is Ammonium Nitrate in the bottles and it comes with a jar of Aluminum powder.
When you mix a teaspoon of Aluminum powder and a bottle of Ammonium Nitrate, you have what is known as AmmonAl.
If you want chemicals to play with...I'll give you 2 good sources.
http://www.unitednuclear.com/supplies.htm
click on "chemicals and metals" upper right
http://www.skylighter.com/
click on "chemicals" on the left side
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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That looks like a typical gasoline "bomb".
If it was an true explosion you would not be standing that close.
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Apocalypsenow
Trad climber
Cali
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How about the 'girly girls" bullet, that got tossed into the fire a few "winter Josh's" back?
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426
Sport climber
Wartburg, TN
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How about down the side of "Intersection" on New Year's?
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Jaybro
Social climber
The West
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off topic, but related;
more at www.drmegavolt.com
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Ouch!
climber
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One time we were on a military exercise in -zero temps. Standing around a burning barrel to warm up. Some as#@&%e sneaked a handful of blanks into the barrel. Piece of brass blew out and hit a dude in the throat. Got unfunny fast. Damn near bled to death before we could get him hauled in out of the desert.
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WBraun
climber
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Survival Research Labs at: http://www.srl.org/
These guys do the big. We had a guy on Sar that worked for them and still does.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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Oct 10, 2005 - 12:40am PT
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Not likely. Black powder is relavively safe.
Flash powder, yes.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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Oct 10, 2005 - 03:19am PT
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bic in the fire? light.
can of wd40 inthe fire? FUN.
magnisium engine block in the fire? DAMN. burned so bright that hvcg was a nuclear reaction, you could'a soloed the comic strip whick was a mile away, and then read a newspaper on the summit......
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KarlP
Social climber
Queensland, NorCal, Iceland
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Oct 10, 2005 - 08:39am PT
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zardoz: if by "pool acid" you mean caustic soda, NaOH, then a far more interesting thing to do than simply sticking alfoil in and closing the lid, is to catch the gas that comes off, which is hydrogen.
The downside is that it tends to burn so quickly that you don't really get good fireballs. But for floating over the neighbourhood, they are pretty sweet.
Biggest personal, which got me a few days off school, was black powder inside an empty soda bulb cannister, taped up, and with a sparkler for a fuse. Big enough to see the shockwave move out, which was pretty impressive. We even got away with for a couple of months, then some lunatic chucked a caustic bomb (caustic soda, alfoil and water, screwed up tight in a coke bottle) in a bin in the teachers office, and complained that "well those guys got away with it" (Ignoring the fact that we blew a crater out in the back oval, not throwing acid (sorry, base!) around an office)
But for something a little different, which I've not seen mentioned....
Potassium Nitrate, melted together with sugar. Normally, if you melt it at a low enough temperature, mixed well, you get a very nice caramel coloured lump, that when lighted produces copious amounts of smoke.
But when you "upscale" (always a disaster recipe) and make about 500g of it at once, just by sticking a tin half and half on the stove top on high. welllll. It all looks fine, then you go to stir it, and all of a sudden air gets down to the bottom of the mixture, and it fountained hot caramel/ash all over the kitchen, and released said volumes of smoke. While the family was chatting after dinner no less. That was the end of the counter tops, the cupboard doors, and any of those hobbies of mine for a while.
Cheers,
Karl P
PS: As for bics, they are simply unreliable. I've had them go bang when being dropped, and merely pop from going in the fire. and vice versa.
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can't say
Social climber
Pasadena CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 10, 2005 - 09:51am PT
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The thread drift has been very enlighting and fun. But what really prompted me to post this thread was something we would do when things would start to get boring around the fire out at Josh.
As the evening would wear on and the lies about routes, people, and things in general would taper off, someone would seriptiously toss said lighter into the fire unnoticed. Then very, very quietly, they would begin to whisper "bic in the fire" so the people next to them could barely hear it. Then very subtly increase the volume, "bic in the fire" and since time was of the essence, keep repeating it until, suddenly someone figured out what was being said and the lightbulb would go on and those who understood it's meaning would back away from the fire, until the bic would go whoosh, startling the drunks, stoners (which the majority were) out of their stupor. What was funny about it was watching the reactions of people once they figured out what was going on.
As far as serious pyro-entertainment went, I still have to refer to my army days since they had the really good stuff. When I was first in, they had me tagged for mortors. Mainly 81mm, but we also had fun with the 4.2s. When I was going thru infantry training at Fort Polk LA. we would be on night firing missions on the same range as the .50 cal machineguns, the 105 recoilless rifiles and our mortors.
Well this being the early 70s acid was still a major player in the recreation drug scene and many of us would drop prior to going out on night firing exercises. Well I can imagine you can guess the rest, but it was totally a trip to be out there at night, firing off white phosphorus, illumination and high explosive rounds along with the tracers from the .50 cals and the 105s all going off at the same time. Man-o-man, talk about trails and patterns. LOL, yep that was our army in action. A bunch of tripped out yahoos down in Little Vietnam (Ft. Polk) having fun with Owsely's best.
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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Oct 10, 2005 - 11:43am PT
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"Potassium Nitrate, melted together with sugar. Normally, if you melt it at a low enough temperature, mixed well, you get a very nice caramel coloured lump, that when lighted produces copious amounts of smoke."
Yep done this...works well.
I recommend an electric hot plate outside!
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Shack
Big Wall climber
So. Cal.
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Oct 10, 2005 - 12:16pm PT
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OK, all you pyros out there...
Here is the dangerous stuff...If you die from messing around with these formulas...
don't come crying to me!
Use at your own risk.
All amounts are by weight NOT volume. Make very small amounts at a time, or better yet don't make them at all!
FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY!
Flash Powder Formulas:
http://www.geocities.com/tshack100/FlashPowderFormulas.doc
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Oct 10, 2005 - 02:16pm PT
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Juan,
You gotta watch those cavers.
NSS 17434
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Jerry Dodrill
climber
Bodega, CA
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Oct 10, 2005 - 03:11pm PT
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Years ago at a family beach campfire by a big a rock, my step sister says "Dad, does metal burn?" He's a fire chief. Perplexed, he replies "no, not usually." Nobody sees her slip an unopened can of chili into the coals to heat up. Half an hour later an incredible explosion blows the fire out of the ring, hot coals showering all of us as we fall away backward. The can lands back in the pit, one end gone the other bulged out. Boiling chili splattered all over the rock. Luckily the directional blast went away from us. No, the metal didn't burn, but...
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