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mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 6, 2014 - 11:50pm PT
No, it's yer fault. Or the Chirff's. :0)

Draw straws...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 7, 2014 - 01:21am PT
What mouse? Jerry asked Obama for help. That's it... drought officially over... end of story.

That is if you believe there ever was a drought... which there wasn't if you consider the Pliocene... which is TOTALLY relevant.




But then, living in a cave as you do, well, the situ most assuredly does not affect you.

Not as much as not living in California won't affect me. F*#k this place. Too rainy. Back to the intermountain west for me.
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Apr 7, 2014 - 09:41am PT
28 feet and still heading down, yikes! Interesting read.......

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/04/06/6299023/san-joaquin-valley-sinking-as.html
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 7, 2014 - 12:30pm PT
SO much for the State Leadership learning from and taking action stemming from this valuable 1977 DWR Report where the above issue of ground water management was critically addressed.

I love it how the authoritarian's solution to everything is... AUTHORITY. A year of drought, which has already been authoritatively decided NOT to be a drought, and the Governor should wave his magic wand and fix everything.

Nevermind the decades of precedent and $$... it was Jerry's fault.
Nevermind the other gov's who did nothing... blame it on Jerry.
Never mind Jerry's preemptive water conservation efforts and post-drought actions... blame Jerry.

In short, rely on AUTHORITY for everything... blame AUTHORITY for everything... meanwhile continue to do and understand NOTHING about everything.

Unless it has to do with climate change... then the AUTHORITIES better not do ANYTHING because chuff doesn't believe (or even come close to understanding) the science yet.

Ah... per the DWR's 1977 Drought Report recommendations, that was one of the priority actions...

Recommended by Jerry's leadership. When was the first comprehensive investigation of groundwater resources in CA conducted? When were any funds allocated or updates made? (Hint: Brown, Davis, Brown). See Bulletin 118, Water Code 12924, and updates.

I know, I know... effective groundwater management should be implemented regardless of whether we understand the groundwater systems or not.

AUTHORITY... regardless of knowledge... Chuff Ricki for Governor!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 7, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
You Bruce are certainly no Dudley Doright. No that other character, Snidely Whiplash, almost perfectly describes your character or rather lack thereof.Watch out frosty back there's a chinese coal train a-coming right over your backside.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 7, 2014 - 01:27pm PT
I've done a lot to help solve the problem over the last 30 years. And I will continue to do everything I can, although not in this state. You got shot at and peeled potatoes and now do nothing for anyone but yourself. Did you fix the problem over there? Or did you fail, only to have another Repugnikunt leader send another group of young people scrambling to fix it, wasting their potential that could have been applied to solving real problems rather than killing poor people for oil. Thanks for your service.

Chuff, do you think the only taxes you pay are income taxes?
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Apr 7, 2014 - 01:43pm PT
"WE"???


Ah, nope. Not mine. Maybe YOUR's.


That is of course if you ever changed your original residency from Tenn.


BTW, I and many others in the CA Dis Vet Category are in a whole different tax bracket.

Ah, but the Repugs have a plan for YOU, and the rest of the 47% of "takers" that rip off tax money from the rest of us. They want to take you to the FLAT TAX, so that you can pay the same rate as Sam Walton. None of your income tax deductible.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 7, 2014 - 01:43pm PT
Hey, I'm sure that's the number someone gave him and it fits his world view that he is better than everyone else... in fact 6% better than perfect... so OF COURSE it is accurate!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2014 - 12:42pm PT
Totally normal Dingus. 50 million years ago the Earth was 14C hotter than it is today. Totally NORMAL.
WBraun

climber
Apr 8, 2014 - 12:46pm PT
^^^^ Says the guy who was there with his thermometer ^^^^^^
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2014 - 12:55pm PT
says the guy who wouldn't know a geothermometer if it were crammed up his ass.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 8, 2014 - 01:12pm PT
Oh, it's gonna take a miracle...[Click to View YouTube Video]

And 106% sounds like one.

Care to share your secret?

You fellers are starting to get irrigated with one another.

That's no way to live.

It's time to tighten belts again, like in the mid-seventies with the gas crunch and the late seventies with the huge drought.

Life would not be worth crap if all was halcyon seas and salad days.

I'm glad we got folks like Chief to help us bail and folks like Dingus who can tell us how long we may need to bail...

This dry, too, shall pass,
The changes, though, will last and last.

Subsidence does not go away. Fact.
Deep wells do not recharge fast here. Fact.

It's a State of Change, after all. But you can only make so many changes before you ruin everything. We have paved a lot of parking lots so far, more than we'll ever need.

We've pumped way too much groundwater, more than we ever should have, mostly in the name of greed (read "survival," whether you are a big or a small farmer--y'all are equally guilty. You really do need that big-ass Ram to drive to the Elks every Tuesday and to haul your roping horse, huh?)

Dipshits...

You can't tell things are changing day to day, but they do. It takes a lifetime (forty years, to use a biblical metaphor) to notice them, or a career in the field of water conservation & use, or related ones.

So keep yelling and yammering about who's right. Everyone's curious about that issue, especially.

You could just take that conversation over to the Sidetrack Bar and it would be nice.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2014 - 01:20pm PT
I'm 100% self-reliant... I go to the store and pick up all the food I want... all by myself!
fluffy

Trad climber
Colorado
Apr 8, 2014 - 01:26pm PT
Care to share your secret?

(((((((the terlet drains back into the well))))))))
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Apr 8, 2014 - 02:06pm PT
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=677582175634364&set=a.204261386299781.49442.156316434427610&type=1&theater

some interesting objective data on the drought.
Elcapinyoazz

Social climber
Joshua Tree
Apr 8, 2014 - 02:22pm PT
when you are 100% self-reliant

Dug that thar well with me own two hands, I did!
With a shovel and pick axe I fabbed, with ore I mined, with me own bare hands!

You wouldn't know self-reliant if it bit you in your Uncle Sam provided paycheck.
Reeotch

climber
4 Corners Area
Apr 8, 2014 - 02:22pm PT
Yeah, I saw those pictures you posted the other day, DMT, the ones showing the paltry Sierra snowpack.

We're screwed. This is super serious.

We'll really start feeling it this fall when California harvests fail to come in, or come in with greatly reduced yeilds. Get ready to start spending a lot more of your paycheck on food. Expect the quality to go down, as well.

Time to get your garden in order . . .
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2014 - 03:19pm PT
Right, it is a moot point... just because you acquire the fruits of another person's labor doesn't mean you aren't self-reliant. Just because you are provided food, water, weapons, protective gear, etc etc etc doesn't mean you aren't self-reliant. I dress myself (usually), drive myself to the store (sometimes), and buy my own groceries (using welfare checks)... totally self-reliant.

You actually have money ANtichristwes???

Yep, I inherited it all by myself... just like you and your well.






(actually, I don't have much. with a jew-ish gf, a frugal life-style, and a few sound investments I'm able to eek by on ~$5-10K a year. never once received welfare or unemployment benefits... although clearly I could)
WBraun

climber
Apr 10, 2014 - 10:33am PT
I drank some Californian water yesterday.

It didn't feel or taste dry.

Therefore the drought must be a hoax .......
couchmaster

climber
pdx
Apr 15, 2014 - 11:02pm PT
I'm pitying the small farmers who will get squeezed out of business. Folks like the Pistachio and pomegranate thieves will continue to pay off democrats to steal your water so as to be picking up the honest farmers land and equipment for a song at auction. (Here's a pro democrat/pro business look at the Resnicks to get you started if you are interested http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/10_47/b4204068352545.htm); Meantime, what it will mean to you in a Arizona State University study about to be released in a Wall Street journal article called "Attention Shoppers: Fruit and Vegetable Prices Are Rising ":

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2014/04/15/attention-shoppers-fruit-and-vegetable-prices-rising/?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsFifth

Short version:


I suspect that the administration will now pull Fruits and veggies out of the inflation index so that they can continue to state that inflation isn't a problem. LOL. Right, and I have a bridge to sell you. Long version, there will be rumblings throughout the Ca economy and real estate market. {Some of which might not even be noticed if Silicon valley keeps kicking ass and picks up the slack I'll admit)



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