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2 l l

Sport climber
Rancho Verga, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 12:37am PT
And then he died the next day...
At the risk of being nitpicky, he posted the morning of the 5th, before he went up to the lakes basin.

bachar


Gym climber
Mammoth Lakes, CA Topic Author's Reply - Jul 5, 2009 - 10:12am PT

zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de La Playa
Jul 4, 2013 - 12:44am PT
No whining for me... I'm going to a special fouth of July baseball game...


VS.


Whilst I never met him, I wish I would have.

mcreel

climber
Barcelona
Jul 4, 2013 - 02:46am PT
It's nice to see this thread again, as a reminder of one of the major shapers of free climbing in the U.S. Am I mistaken, or was this an uncharacteristic post by Bachar? I don't recall him ever taking much of a public stance on political issues.

It's also nice to be reminded that celebrating the 4th of July is about remembering the things (or are they just ideas?) that make the U.S. a great nation, like equal opportunity, quality public education, respect and preservation of the natural environment. Hmm, maybe this thread's title is becoming more and more appropriate. Of course, a characteristic of old farts is that they say things were better in the past. Maybe they were just more innocent and ignorant then.

At any rate, the spirit of John Bachar is alive and well.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jul 4, 2013 - 08:48am PT
I'm glad this is here every year, part of John's legacy. Much as I love this country and living here, there is some sh#t that is f*#ked up that's not gonna get fixed unless we keep it in our minds and keep plugging away at it. Thanks John for reminding us of this, and inspiring us as well!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jul 4, 2013 - 03:09pm PT
Rest in peace, John. Me miss you.

This thread is embedded in me. I will never forget our interactions and your exploits.

You are a BachStar!
Dropline

Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
Jul 5, 2013 - 08:35pm PT
As long as ST lives so does this thread and the spiritedness and memory of JB.

Long live Supertopo and long live the memory of irreverant John Bachar.
Fat Dad

Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
Jul 5, 2013 - 10:21pm PT
There are some terrific contradictons in the history of this nation. Slavery, genocide, but then a willingness to make incredible sacrifices for others. Think of WWII: countless examples of selflessness and virtue. On the whole, I see our country as an ongoing experiment that still requires what the Founders described in the last sentence of the Declaration of Indendence:
And for the support of this Declaration, with a firm reliance on the protection of divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes and our sacred Honor.
I didn't know Bachar well, hardly at all really, but I believe he would have approved of that sentiment.
old craghag

Sport climber
Bishop
Jul 6, 2013 - 01:21am PT
With each telling of a story it changes a little. Its easy to see how the the truth gets lost. No wonder the history books can be so inaccurate.
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Jul 6, 2013 - 01:35am PT
I'm glad I had a chance to share my sushi creations with him.

And get super f*#king drunk :-)
splitter

Trad climber
SoCal Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Jul 6, 2013 - 01:44am PT
TT - ...rest in peace Virginia Parker.
sad that i will never see Virginia again. we laughed so much and she had such great stories. we were roomies for one season on the eastide, good times. last time i saw her i waved goodbye as a whirley bird was lifting her up and away. she had dislocated her shoulder on fairview and i took part in the rescue. she was a very good friend. poor Virgina, the world treated her so poorly, she deserved so much better. RIP
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Jul 6, 2013 - 10:10am PT

Going to Pow Wow on the Flathead-Salish Rez I am reminded again of this thread and the wisdom of contemplating the subject of the Native American genocide at the same time as we also celebrate our nations's birth. May we never forget.

At these events I see great patriotism for this county. In this part of the community I see a people where men to be men are warriors who enlist and proudly serve. They make a big deal out of it including this particular dance which was dedicated to veterans.

Going forward into the future I see the NatAm melting into the greater gene pool but the many positive traditions being kept alive through celebrations like this.



I strongly support turning Columbus Day into a holiday that celebrates Native American culture.
saa

climber
Bleau, cham, pink granite coast
Jul 4, 2014 - 06:42am PT
Bump for master john bachar.
it's been what... 3 years now? (July 2010?)

honnors and wild night campfires in thuolomne...
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 4, 2014 - 06:49am PT

go-B

climber
Cling to what is good!
Jul 4, 2014 - 06:55am PT


...no lie call on the Lord and be forever free!
Crimpergirl

Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
Jul 4, 2014 - 07:27am PT
Tomorrow - 5th - is the date. This time of year is tied to him for me.
couchmaster

climber
Jul 4, 2014 - 08:36am PT
Best post of the thread? On July 4th 2009, the late Blitzo said:
"Can't we all just get along? Our time here is limited! "

That was his entire post. Sadly, so true.
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Jul 4, 2014 - 11:24am PT
Walleye beat me to it!
zBrown

Ice climber
Brujo de la Playa
Jul 4, 2014 - 11:28am PT
I calls 'em as I sees 'em. Good post TGT.
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Jul 4, 2014 - 11:35am PT
I nominate saa for the ST math and history award,..
ron gomez

Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
Jul 4, 2014 - 01:50pm PT
Peace
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