Stonemaster Slides/Tarbuster Benefit @ Todd Gordon's 4/25/09

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nature

climber

Tucson, AZ

Mar 18, 2009 - 12:41am PT

yes. though so far I have a grand total of $30 to spend on fish. but i'll work on that soon.... hehe

edit: i need to visit with locker and cosmic among the many other reason i will make the effort/journey

troutboy

Trad climber

Newark, DE

Mar 18, 2009 - 12:29pm PT

All,

I thought I had a job conflict, but it got cancelled.

So, if I can swing it, will there be enough folks out there to be able to find a partner for some days before or after. Too far to come for a weekend only. Anyone willing to climb with a decrepit 50-year old, 135-pound weakling like me ?

I really need a Josh fix.....

Tim S

Edited to add - Will climb any grade with any competent person, but self depricating remarks above notwithstanding, I'm comfy leading up to mid-10s and following slightly harder.

ron gomez

Trad climber

fallbrook,ca

Mar 18, 2009 - 01:41pm PT

troutboy, as long as yer climbing ez stuff, I'm 50 y/o, fat and outa shape. I'll climb with you. I'll bring my fly rod, we''l do some casting as well!
It will be a good time for you... promise.
Peace

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Mar 19, 2009 - 02:20pm PT

Not necessarily directly relevant, but interesting nonetheless:

[url="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/03/090315155110.htm" target="new"]Blocking Protein May Help Ease Painful Nerve Condition[/url]

Tarbuster

climber

right here, right now

Mar 19, 2009 - 02:56pm PT

Joseph,

Yes the German doctor who conducted studies of climbers and their intercompartmental forearm pressure did return my e-mail. His opinion was that anybody who has dealt with compartment syndrome in the leg and has the pressure testing device, is suitably trained to test pressures in the arm.

(I don't necessarily agree, given all the case studies and research which I have on hand... and keeping in mind that I am really out-of-the-box with my presentation, lacking as I am in swelling and pain upon palpation)

I am currently undergoing a therapeutic regime known as ASTYM.
Diagnostically, this is conclusive that I have a high degree of fibrosis in my forearm muscle tissue and this condition would precipitate muscle ischemia (the outstripping of my blood supply as a result of sustained fine motor work activity).

There are clinical studies supporting ASTYM's efficacy and I will have those in hand shortly.

The ASTYM practitioner is a climber and a physical therapist with 20 years experience. He as well has dealt with plenty of compartment syndrome presentations in the lower leg and just can't produce or deduce findings of compartment syndrome in my arms.

(We think we have a lead on a local surgeon who has done a fasciotomy of a climber's forearm, so we will nevertheless pursue an opinion from the surgeon.)

He also performed manual nerve conduction studies known as neural gliding stretches: this, along with my recent EMG/nerve conduction studies, completely rules out any TOS or nerve compression. I'm totally solid throughout those examinations.

The degree of fibrotic tissue which I have in my forearm muscles bellies far exceeds that of any of his other patients; they typically show this in tendon attachments and not so much in muscles.

ASTYM is commonly prescribed for auto workers (assembly line) with repetitive strain, so we are going to look for some feedback within that arena, as this would fairly well model my experience with industrial sewing.

(I am going to cancel my local rheumatology appointment.
I will heed the advice of the rheumatology Dr. who suggested that notion only be pursued along the lines of a muscle specialist, likely engaged at a research facility.)

It may be that my muscles are particularly given to fibrotic accumulation; moreso than the average overworked individual. However the sustained nature of my self-employment as a contract sewer was far beyond any average output (easily approaching double what someone would experience in a 9-to-5, Monday through Friday scenario and for a number of years), so that goes some distance in describing a history to support my condition, never mind rockclimbing.

You will be able to park your van at Todd's the night of the party and stay there. Although given the available space, not everybody can do this, and as many will have campsites or hotel rooms, there is some room and consideration for those who have had too much to drink to just stay put.

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Mar 19, 2009 - 03:19pm PT

"...there is some room and consideration for those who have had too much to drink...

Good to know, as I plan on being one of those and would prefer not to be out on the roads if I don't need to be...

SteveW

Trad climber

The state of confusion

Mar 19, 2009 - 03:52pm PT

healy
You better have a round for me since I can't be there!!!

Bwwwaaaaaaaa!!!!

Ezra

Social climber

WA, NC, Idaho Falls

Mar 19, 2009 - 10:37pm PT

Tar,

We all hope the ASTYM treatment works, The increased fibrosis also mechanistically makes sense.

Please put your extensive repetative work into your cover letter.

Best
-e

Mighty Hiker

Social climber

Vancouver, B.C.

Mar 21, 2009 - 12:24pm PT

Bump. In case there's any news, and to keep it somewhere near the front page. Still hoping/planning to be there, and do a few climbs en route or while there.

philo

Trad climber

boulder, co.

Mar 21, 2009 - 03:37pm PT

"there is some room and consideration for those who have had too much to drink to just stay put".

Man, I want to be one of those!
The date is circled on my calendar. If the stars align I will make it.

Crimpergirl

Social climber

Boulder, Colorado!

Mar 21, 2009 - 03:40pm PT

We will be there as well.

I don't want to be one that has over indulged - and you guys don't want me to be either. I barf EASILY. What are your thoughts then on good places to crash with a camper (pop-up)? Dry lake bed - Home of the infamous J-Tree Sushi Fest?

Going to be a great party for sure! Can't wait!

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber

valley center, ca

Mar 21, 2009 - 11:32pm PT

Anders, Crimpie and Dave....looking forward to seeing you guys there. It should be a royal blast. Lynne

Edit: Nature, what's happening with the sushi ? Can I help ?

Steve Grossman

Trad climber

Seattle, WA

Mar 22, 2009 - 12:57am PT

Roy- What is your lucky number if 23 or less?

hossjulia

Trad climber

Eastside

Mar 22, 2009 - 03:27pm PT

I think I might be able to drag Bob Finn with me to this thing.
He's kind of balking, if any of you guys have his number, bug him, would ya?

I am fer-sure coming, I promised nature a hand.

It'll be great to see Roy, Todd and his kids, it's been way too long. (Never have met the little buggers, I think I met Andrea once about 10 years ago.)

Roy, Give ole Finn a call would ya?

hoss

Toker Villain

Big Wall climber

Toquerville, Utah

Mar 22, 2009 - 04:14pm PT

So what is the tally of people that have ponied up for the event?

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber

valley center, ca

Mar 22, 2009 - 04:16pm PT

A guess....#163

Todd Gordon

Trad climber

Joshua Tree, Cal

Mar 22, 2009 - 04:47pm PT

Jim Bridwell will be there;...saw him yesterday, and if anyone would like a little piece of climbing history, Jim is selling all his climbing gear;....N.America's greatest mountaineer....(Sort of like buying Tiger Wood's golf clubs...)......it will be one hell of an evening....and who wants to miss out on the rare chance to party down with The Bird....(This is not his first BBQ at the Gordon Ranch......) See you all soon....

Lynne Leichtfuss

Social climber

valley center, ca

Mar 22, 2009 - 04:53pm PT

Gotta up my guess now....#277.

Say ekat/Blinny if yo read this you're welcome to stay with me. I have a spot to stay Fri, Sat & Sun. nites. Not camping.. being a softy. Fly into Ontario or Sun Diego and have some fun, Gal. email if yo get this and you're interested. lrl

EDIT: I may have to wash my jeans for this one.