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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Jul 14, 2008 - 08:46pm PT
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say, i though i heard someone a long time ago say they had heard some scientist said that there was some kind of a time-account glitch somewhere, and then someone tried to point out that it very well could have been due to the stalled sun that on that very day, for joshua...
has anyone ever heard anything about that... ?
Maybe it was on the day when they went from standard time to daylight savings time? How does it go? In the fall, fall back.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:09pm PT
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hey there granitclimber.. say, that was funny.... kind of like:
instead of back yonder... wayyyy back yonder...
instead of far, too far back...
edit... ooppp, i thought you said, fall fall back... like falling back in time... oooooopss...
okay, still cute.. .though... i got it.. :)
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:13pm PT
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hey there dingus... wow, that is a power-packed question... hmmmm...
kind of like asking where the atom comes from ... or where the breath of life comes from ... or whatever hard chore one may find...
wow, you all are full of questin, on this thread... :)
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:13pm PT
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To be "fair and balanced"
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:15pm PT
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hey there... or, oppps... kind of like asking where the building blocks of an atom come from? ... is that better... oh, my...
or life, before the slap that brings the breath... :)
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WandaFuca
Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:23pm PT
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So he stopped the Sun from orbiting the Earth?
Please advise.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:23pm PT
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"Joshua 10:13 is a miracle that Joshua prayed for and God answered his prayer."
Yes, but it says that the sun stood still instead of saying that the earth stopped rotating.
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WandaFuca
Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:26pm PT
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So does the sun still orbit the Earth in your solar system?
What am I saying!? Sheesh!
What I mean is, does the entire cosmos revolve around your planet in your universe?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
Nowhere
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:29pm PT
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I still want to know if the Bible allows me to enslave Mighty Hiker. I say that it does.
Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
Leviticus 25:44-46 (King James Version)
King James Version (KJV)
44Both thy bondmen, and thy bondmaids, which thou shalt have, shall be of the heathen that are round about you; of them shall ye buy bondmen and bondmaids.
45Moreover of the children of the strangers that do sojourn among you, of them shall ye buy, and of their families that are with you, which they begat in your land: and they shall be your possession.
46And ye shall take them as an inheritance for your children after you, to inherit them for a possession; they shall be your bondmen for ever[/ib]: but over your brethren the children of Israel, ye shall not rule one over another with rigour.
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WandaFuca
Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:36pm PT
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granite,
That is like the stuff about God! telling Abraham to prepare his son for human sacrifice and then at the last minute God! is all like "ha, ha jk."
Except those darned Hebrew joke writers forgot the punchline sometimes.
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:42pm PT
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hey there... welll, i am off to check on all the over good stuff here...
say, before i go... this is kind of on the same track, maybe, as it least it is about the bible aspect:
say, and you all can throw in the other religion ways that i dont know about... but my friend and i were talking about volcanoes, etc, the other night...
it was interesting for us both to note that the we had heard-tell in the bible that it states many such things before the earth's end days... things such as:
1--more earthquakes, and signs in the heavens...
2--then, mountains of fire falling into the sea (the volcanic aspect, natually), killing 1/3 part of sea life, also as to the trees and land.... as to a star falling from heaven drying up 1/3 of the earth waters... and the 1/3 of stars not showing as the sun and moon are dimmed...
3--and the waves of the sea in great force (tital stuff)...
4-the heavens (ozone????) splitting open like a scroll...
well---what had cuaght our attentions that night was the fact that there are all these VAST amounts of volcanoes being discovered all over,underground... and of course, all the dormant ones that we've seen... well, we really could see how if earthquakes started trigging such.. and all the etc... that if these volcanoes all took to going off, or started, and followed suit year, after year, or whatever...
why, then there'd be ash all over and as we've seen the sky would be dark... the sun color would be that odd redish color... and the earth would sure be drying up, as to anything being able to grow...
and now a days, too, beside the vocanoes, we see how the global warming is affecting ocean levels, or whatever, and frozen northern lakes, not being left frozen long enough, so they are evaporating...
so this was kind of a heavy thought for those of us with grandkids, etc...
well, the bible mentions all this, sooooooo...
so i just figured that all the other books for faiths surly must have things that they must have stated as to the future....
perhaps some of you all could share this... too... as with all these volcanoes and fault lines, maybe others have took note on them too....course, long time back, folks did not know all this was going to happen... but they sure hit it on the nose...
*now the bible does say, as to wars in jerusalem, etc, and wars in the world and christ coming, etc, but you all have heard all that etc:
so maybe you all have some newer thoughts on all this... i'll get back soon as i can, as you there are so many of you that have shared a lot here... so i know you have some kind of sourse to share from... thanks all...
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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:46pm PT
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hey there graniteclimber.. say, i just saw this... be back later... but say...
most likely it was written that way, as the soldiers stated what they say... (i dont think folks understood the deeper aspects of how it all worked... just that they were a might shocked that shadows took to not moving anymore, and had never seen the likes of that before)...
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monolith
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Jul 14, 2008 - 09:55pm PT
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Certainly nothing you would consider evidence, Jody.
We are just funnin with ya and giving you plenty of opportunities to witness to us.
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monolith
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Jul 14, 2008 - 10:32pm PT
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What type have you been giving?
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monolith
Trad climber
Berkeley
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Jul 14, 2008 - 10:43pm PT
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Well I commend you on your effort and the rewards heaven inspires for you.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jul 14, 2008 - 10:50pm PT
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rock can be dated by radionuclide concentrations... no life required...
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WandaFuca
Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
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Jul 14, 2008 - 10:53pm PT
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Imagine if Jody was a District Attorney and you were on trial for murder.
The curtain rises to reveal a non-descript county prosecutor's office.
Assistant DA:
"Sir, I think we may have found some exculpatory evidence."
DA Jody:
"What is it?"
Assitant DA:
"Someone else's DNA was found on the victim and we didn't find any of the defendant's DNA"
DA Jody:
"No, what does excupaltory mean?"
Assistant DA:
"We have DNA evidence that shows that the defendant is innocent."
DA Jody:
"You know I don't accept DNA as evidence!"
Assistant DA:
"Sorry sir." "But there's more."
DA Jody:
"More what!?"
Assitant DA:
"Evidence sir."
DA Jody:
"I'll be the judge of that."
Assitant DA:
"We found remains of similar victims, sir"
DA Jody:
"You mean, fossils?"
Assistant DA:
"Well, sort of sir, but the thing is sir, that the defendant has an alibi for these others and we found the same DNA on these as we found on our first victim."
DA Jody:
"Didn't I tell you I don't accept DNA as evidence!?"
Assistant DA:
(nods)
DA Jody:
"And I certainly won't accept that fossils could be evidence."
Assistant DA:
"But sir, what about the fact that the FBI profile doesn't match, and what about the guy who confessed?"
DA Jody:
"Glory seekers, that's all; they don't prove a thing."
Assistant DA:
(fearfully) "Sir, with all due respect, don't we have a duty to present the defense with any and all evidence which might exonerate, er, . . . I mean show that the defendant might be innocent?"
DA Jody:
"Evidence! I don't see any evidence!!" "What evidence?!!!111"
Assitant DA:
(terrified now)"Why sssirr . . . the man who confessed . . . well . . .
DA Jody:
"Out with it already!"
Assistant DA:
(gathering his courage) The man who confessed sir, he's a match."
DA Jody:
"He's a what?!!"
Assistant DA:
"His DNA, sir. The man who confessed; his DNA was found on the victim."
And as the curtain drops, a mighty thunderbolt drops from the ceiling and destroys the blasphemer, and order is once again restored in God's creation.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jul 14, 2008 - 11:38pm PT
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you can estimate the accuracy... you can determine the uncertainty quantitatively.
Also, the decay rate for an isotope is a physical constant (doesn't vary, at least not in the rock)...
You can also cross check your answer using other isotopes that have different abundances and chemistries...
...so no question there. Solid as rock, so to speak.
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