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Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:33am PT
Who did not promise that he would build a wall?

nice try at deflection, won't work
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:36am PT
Who said Mexico would pay for it?

Why is this wall building even a political/budget issue in the first place?

Seems oh-so-simple to me....build the wall, and make Mexico pay for it. Just like the man said he would do.
rottingjohnny

Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:38am PT
More importantly....Should Donald Trump be impeached or merely censured...?
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:42am PT
What's the point of your question, Jody?

Mexico is going to pay for the wall, and it won't require any budget impact to the US.

Easy-peasy.
10b4me

Social climber
Lida Junction
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:42am PT
More importantly....Should Donald Trump be impeached or merely censured...?

trump saya that calling him a mofo is degrading to the us.
now that's funny.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:43am PT

Trump: I’m nearing decision on emergency declaration to build wall
‘I may decide a national emergency depending on what happens over the next few days,’ he said.

By QUINT FORGEY 01/06/2019 10:35 AM EST
https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/06/trump-emergency-border-wall-government-shutdown-1082712

President Donald Trump again threatened Sunday to declare a national emergency as a means to construct his proposed wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, saying he would first gauge the results of upcoming negotiations to end a partial government shutdown triggered by partisan debate over his campaign trail promise.

“I may decide a national emergency depending on what happens over the next few days,” Trump told reporters as he exited the White House en route to Camp David, according to a pool report.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:45am PT
"Trust me, he will figure out a way to have Mexico reimburse us in the next 6 years of his presidency."


That's right up there with the most common lies ever told, like...

"I'll pay you next week"

and

ummm....

something about oral intimacy...

apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:47am PT
I sure hope the Democrats are making note of all of the outside-the-box solutions the GOP has been using to advance their agenda, i.e. McConnell and Garland, and declaring a 'national emergency' to serve your stooooopid campaign promise.

That's gonna come in reaaaallll handy down the road...
Spider Savage

Mountain climber
The shaggy fringe of Los Angeles
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:51am PT
Prediction: If evidence of an actual crime exists, and a solid move is made to impeach the President, Trump will turn it into an even bigger circus act than his campaign. The media will report every minute detail with hours of OP/Ed speculation around every tidbit. The country will be consumed with the confusion for months or even years. It will not make things better.

Meanwhile, America's War on Trump continues with hot news speculation every hour.

The Editors of American media don't even understand their own job. They don't get that they got him elected with the constant stream of free publicity they gave him.

Good Luck USA!
dirtbag

climber
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:54am PT
Small government conservatism is officially dead. (If it ever truly existed in the first place.)

The Republican Party is now an authoritarian, white nationalist party. Declaring a national emergency over a stupid f*#king wall (there is NO emergency, dummies) is the antithesis of limited government and illegal.

The GOP has got trump derangement syndrome bad. It needs to be destroyed.

Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Jan 6, 2019 - 09:59am PT
Trust me, he will figure out a way to have Mexico reimburse us in the next 6 years of his presidency.

not even a good troll, nobody is so dumb as to really believe that ^^^

well maybe liars believe such nonsense.....
divad

Trad climber
wmass
Jan 6, 2019 - 10:04am PT
The irony of trump derangement syndrome is that thinking someone is deranged for pointing out someone who actually is deranged..

Lituya

Mountain climber
Jan 6, 2019 - 10:06am PT
I sure hope the Democrats are making note of all of the outside-the-box solutions the GOP has been using to advance their agenda, i.e. McConnell and Garland, and declaring a 'national emergency' to serve your stooooopid campaign promise.

That's gonna come in reaaaallll handy down the road...

Kinda like, "I have a phone--and a pen."

So far, when it comes to shredding the Constitution, Trump is a piker compared to Obama.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 6, 2019 - 10:07am PT
Gaslighting

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation that seeks to sow seeds of doubt in a targeted individual or in members of a targeted group, making them question their own memory, perception, and sanity. Using persistent denial, misdirection, contradiction, and lying, it attempts to destabilize the victim and delegitimize the victim's belief.[1][2]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaslighting
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 6, 2019 - 10:09am PT
Examples of Obama's Constitutional transgressions, Lituya?
monolith

climber
state of being
Jan 6, 2019 - 10:21am PT
You had plenty. You chose to ignore.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 6, 2019 - 10:29am PT
Obama & Clinton, Jody.

Now....

Who said that Mexico would pay for the wall?

Why is this even an issue, if Trump is such a magical wizard?

Slam dunk- make Mexico pay for it, and it doesn't affect our budget or politics.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Jan 6, 2019 - 10:34am PT
Jody, you can't seriously believe that Mexico will wind up paying for Trump's wall, do you?

And what if...horror of horrors...Trump isn't re-elected in 2020? You'd be ok with dumping Trump's promise to make Mexico pay for it onto another president? Even if it's an obvious political loser to adopt such a position?
dirtbag

climber
Jan 6, 2019 - 11:31am PT
Lol...the wall. A gimmick devised to prompt trump to remember to address immigration while campaigning is now an urgent policy need.

The GOP in its present form can never again be entrusted with running our government. He and his supporters have all lost their goddamned minds.
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Jan 6, 2019 - 11:38am PT
Yes, walls work real good, don't they?

A 20 foot wall easily defeated with a 21 foot ladder, duh

the blind leading the blind...

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