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zBrown

Ice climber
Oct 17, 2018 - 08:14pm PT
Just speculating about trump's lack of contact with reality but my informal survey results indicate that woman prefer having the "pussy" caressed, not grabbed
fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Oct 17, 2018 - 08:33pm PT
The "grabbing" comment doesn't even make sense as it's anatomically something that wouldnt lend itself to be "grabbed". Reminds me of the 40 year old virgin movie where the virgin trying to impress the guys said that breasts felt like bags of sand....
thebravecowboy

climber
The Good Places
Oct 17, 2018 - 08:39pm PT
perhaps worse than listening to khashoggi ('s dismemberment), m'fug has to listen to kanye "rescind the 13th amendment" head-in-ass dragon energy brother.
10b4me

Social climber
Lida Junction
Oct 17, 2018 - 09:17pm PT
When I was a kid, we were told to fear the Russians. Now trump says we should be friends. We have fought a war against an organization, al qaeda, headed by a saudi. now trump says saudis aren't that bad.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 18, 2018 - 09:02am PT
john hansen

climber
Oct 18, 2018 - 10:07am PT
^^^^^LOL!
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 19, 2018 - 09:25am PT
Mueller report PSA: Prepare for disappointment
And be forewarned that the special counsel’s findings may never be made public.

By DARREN SAMUELSOHN 10/19/2018 05:20 AM EDT
https://www.politico.com/story/2018/10/19/mueller-investigation-findings-914754

President Donald Trump's critics have spent the past 17 months anticipating what some expect will be among the most thrilling events of their lives: special counsel Robert Mueller’s final report on Russian 2016 election interference.

They may be in for a disappointment.

That’s the word POLITICO got from defense lawyers working on the Russia probe and more than 15 former government officials with investigation experience spanning Watergate to the 2016 election case. The public, they say, shouldn’t expect a comprehensive and presidency-wrecking account of Kremlin meddling and alleged obstruction of justice by Trump — not to mention an explanation of the myriad subplots that have bedeviled lawmakers, journalists and amateur Mueller sleuths.

Perhaps most unsatisfying: Mueller’s findings may never even see the light of day.

“That’s just the way this works,” said John Q. Barrett, a former associate counsel who worked under independent counsel Lawrence Walsh during the Reagan-era investigation into secret U.S. arms sales to Iran. “Mueller is a criminal investigator. He’s not government oversight, and he’s not a historian.”

All of this may sound like a buzzkill after two years of intense news coverage depicting a potential conspiracy between the Kremlin and Trump’s campaign, plus the scores of tweets from the White House condemning the Mueller probe as a “witch hunt.”

But government investigation experts are waving a giant yellow caution flag now to warn that Mueller’s no-comment mantra is unlikely to give way to a tell-all final report and an accompanying blitz of media interviews and public testimony on Capitol Hill.
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 19, 2018 - 09:26am PT
Well, if a good portion of the electorate was hoping for some kind of fatal blow from the Justice Department to take this guy out, looks like it's going to be up to the same people that put him in the office in the first place....us.
dirtbag

climber
Oct 19, 2018 - 11:46am PT
cosmic, I don’t think he would be invited to a maga mob, where yesterday the racist you voted for celebrated the beating of a journalist while your fellow deplorables cheered.
Fritz

Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 19, 2018 - 12:38pm PT
Gneiss photoshop work Cosmic.




apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 19, 2018 - 12:55pm PT
"OM FUKING GOD. What the fuk?"


Yeah, it's been the wet dream of the Left that Mueller was going to find the dirtiest dirt possible on Trump, and shovel it right up his arse. For all of the unrealistic expectations of the Left, and all of the Right's whining about the scope of Mueller's investigation, the realities of the investigation process, and Mueller's actual integrity, may be coming home to roost very soon.

The Left will cry 'Foul! Sham investigation!', and the Right will make lots of smug 'I told you so' statements about how the whole thing was a waste of time & $$ (nevermind the fact that they would have done exactly the same thing if the political power was flipped...only more aggressively).

There isn't any silver bullet that's going to take Trump out (figuratively, that is), much as the Left would like to find one. He's going to fall out of favor only at such a point the middle ground of the electorate is finally sick of his sh!t enough to vote him out of office. I don't think we're there yet.
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Oct 19, 2018 - 01:39pm PT
No doubt, the Russians' meddling helped Trump win the presidency. And even though Trump's detractors have been screaming "Collusion! Collusion!" from day one, there was little evidence to support that claim. Maybe Mueller will produce a smoking gun. That's unlikely.

Setting aside your opinion of Trump, let's look at what's occurred as a result of Trump becoming President. Animosity between the left and right is the worst I ever seen. Many on the left view Trump supporters as lowlife scum. Just plain evil. We're talking about fellow Americans. Yet, to the left, they should be hated.

I don't think the Russians aided Trump because the liked him or could use him as a puppet. They aided him because they knew what would happen to domestic disharmony as a result of Trump being in the White House.

The result is probably much better than they expected.

We have met the enemy....
EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Oct 19, 2018 - 01:59pm PT
AntiChrist

Gym climber
Urth

Oct 19, 2018 - 01:46pm PT
Many on the left view Trump supporters as lowlife scum. Just plain evil. We're talking about fellow Americans. Yet, to the left, they should be hated.

Don't forget uneducated pussy grabbing mouth breathers who like to get drunk and "put the moves on the girls."

My point was about every day Americans. The mindset I'm talking about is regularly demonstrated on this forum. You, tut and a number of others are textbook examples. You rely on bad stereotypes to justify your hatred of 100 million Americans. And you don't see the flaws in your thinking. Not much different from the KKK.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Oct 19, 2018 - 02:22pm PT
I have a mother, A Daughter, A Sister & a Wife.

I have a sad history at the hands of spoiled rich kids who were allowed by bad rich parents to do whatever they liked.

I win as long as the bad, evil, pro-hate nazee, stay in power, I win if they close the border. I win if they allow more tax cuts to those sitting on a pile of cash off-shore. I win when the School boards have to beg to teach brown children anything
I would win if my vote counted, but that turtle-faced Mitch could sit, straight faced and say that social entitlements were the cause of the surging debt, tells me the fix is in the game/vote rigged already, so those that are in power will stay in power, no matter what the elections bring.



HermitMaster

Social climber
my abode
Oct 19, 2018 - 02:23pm PT
Don't forget uneducated pussy grabbing mouth breathers who like to get drunk and "put the moves on the girls."

divad

Trad climber
wmass
Oct 19, 2018 - 02:34pm PT
everyday, when I think he has hit an all time low, tomorrow he will prove me wrong..
Norton

climber
The Wastelands
Oct 19, 2018 - 03:08pm PT
Is Hermitmaster seriously trying to equate the morality of Bill Clinton to Donald Trump's?

ever heard of False Equivalence?

Or is he so embarrassed of his vote for the Grabber that he longs for Bill Clinton?

Grow up, defend your own vote, deflecting attention to 20 years ago just does not work.



EdwardT

Trad climber
Retired
Oct 19, 2018 - 03:48pm PT
Is Hermitmaster seriously trying to equate the morality of Bill Clinton to Donald Trump's?

ever heard of False Equivalence?

Good point.

Where are Juanita Broaddricks and Kathleen Willeys in Trump's closet?

Speaking of past Presidents, whatever happened to the story about Barry getting busted, smoking crack with his man-crush?
apogee

climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
Oct 19, 2018 - 07:37pm PT
“I don't think the Russians aided Trump because the liked him or could use him as a puppet. They aided him because they knew what would happen to domestic disharmony as a result of Trump being in the White House”

On this, we can completely agree. Trump probably danced too much with Putin during his campaign, but I doubt he crossed the line enough to be caught. Putin is waaaay more experienced at US politics than Trump is, which means he played him like a fiddle...to sow discord in American society was his primary goal.
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Oct 19, 2018 - 07:57pm PT
One of the conservative team's big problems is their inability to stand up to trumpeters.

So far the few who do are being kicked off the team, like Jeff Flake, who is quite conservative.

In the meantime, trumpy continues his raging lies, scams, ineptitude, and threats. Every day there's more. He is 10 times worse than these silly comparisons to Obama or Clinton.

Today he gave great thanks to the assault on a journalist by a Republican who was convicted. The same week trumpy is extremely hesitant to stand up to the torture and murder of a journalist. Where are the conservative media outlets standing up to this? besides David Brooks.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/during-rally-trump-praises-republican-congressman-who-assaulted-a-journalist
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