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EdwardT
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Retired
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What a windfall, what are you gonna do in retirement?
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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For me I see:
1. We need better mental health care
2. We need to shore up the existing backgrounds checks so people convicted of a violent crime can't get guns
3. For people who have never been convicted of a crime they will probably always be able to get guns.
4. If a friend or relative commits a crime with your gun you should be held responsible for providing a gun.
5. Whenever there's a red flag, e.g. People talking to a radical cleric or people thrown out of a school for violent tendencies, but they haven't committed a crime so they can still buy a gun. We should have counselors like suicide protection workers who follow up with these people and try to talk them down or refer them to more help before another tragedy. See 1.
Thank you, The Fet. I don't think I've read any better suggestions than these. They're practical, non-ideological, and worth the bother. For what it's worth, they aren't that different from Norton's, when he resists his urge to beat up on Republicans. Doubtless, for that those reasons, they'll be ignored so both sides can continue tilting at windmills.
John
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John M
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you should read the article I posted above JohnE. It starts to address some of those issues.
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Norton
Social climber
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Thank you, The Fet. I don't think I've read any better suggestions than these. They're practical, non-ideological, and worth the bother. For what it's worth, they aren't that different from Norton's, when he resists his urge to beat up on Republicans. Doubtless, for that those reasons, they'll be ignored so both sides can continue tilting at windmills.
John
ha!
actually, I plead guilty
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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you should read the article I posted above JohnE. It starts to address some of those issues.
I did, John, and it was excellent. In part, the reaction to Murphy's bill, as well as the ideological rants on this thread, motivated me to express skepticism that realistic, useful actions, like those the Fet propose, will take place.
John
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Oct 8, 2015 - 10:08am PT
5. Whenever there's a red flag, e.g. People talking to a radical cleric...
I suppose we can start with ANYONE that has been in contact & talking to this "Radical Cleric" the past 60 or so years. That would be close to over 250K if NOT more.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Oh, and I suggest that the over 120 "HEAVILY ARMED" Security individuals he has to protect his "radial cleric" ass, 24/7, need to be disarmed IMMEDIATELY!
Carry on...
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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Definitely Philo!
Oh, and to this one,
people thrown out of a school for violent tendencies,
Anyone that has been "expelled" for fighting, would be included here. That would be at 1-2MILLION young men over the past 20-50 years.
That new Federal Agency, "The Gun Control Suicide Agency" is going to be one busy ass lot of Gov't workers. That is of course, if you can get through to them on the phone in order to make an appointment.
Cus for us Vets, that is a complete a joke. Took me 9 days of calling the 1-800 number six times a day to get through and make my 120 day follow up appointment for my ongoing PTSD follow ups.
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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Chief,
same same for the KKK you guys do nothing about for longer than 60 years.
Carry on.
dem terrorists in your own hood!
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
Oct 8, 2015 - 01:04pm PT
Chief,
same same for the KKK you guys do nothing about for longer than 60 years.
You guys? You must mean the Democratic Party.
You do know who this LONGEST SITTING SENIOR DEMOCRAT OR REPUB SENATOR in US History is and his very active role in the national level of the KKK leadership for well over 60 years, is...
So, now we can add any Democrat that ever spoken to that dude during his 50 plus years in in both the Congress and Senate. 2 maybe 3 MILLION???
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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No i dont, Mr.Bean?!
I wont debate if he is a democrat who supports the KKK, is that what your saying is fact?
If so, that's terrible, however, but overall these losers still prance about in your country.
So now, please, post me a Black Panthers photo in retort.
Wait for it.....
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dirtbag
climber
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What's your source for Byrd serving 60 years in the national leadership of the Klan?
He was a member in the 1940s--but 60 years?
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Like he was going to make it public after he ran for office in the early 50's that he was an active member of the Klan. Especially after the "Civil Rights" movement of the 60's and being a full fledged career politician.
NOT once during that period of time, 60-70's did he ever PUBLICLY state that the likes of George Wallace etc were wrong. Nor did he EVER publicly endorse MLKJr or anyone in the Civil Rights movement. Cus had he ever done so, his career as a Congressmen/Senator from West Virginia would have been over.
At his funeral there were over 50 or so well known and identified senior local and national Klansmen. All life long close personal friends.
You people really are so frkn naive.
And here is the PROUD DEMOCRATIC dude that took over for Byrd as the current Democratic Senator from W. VA. Proud LIFELONG member of the NRA and his stand on Gun Control is pretty much inline with theirs.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Like I said, carry on.............
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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Wrong. I may be naive but dont say all of you so easily.
As a whole I still think its sad you waste so much cash and lives fighting every little worldy squirmish and you do basically nothing about the terrorists living in your own yard.
And I am fine with that being everyones fault.
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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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As a whole I still think its sad you waste so much cash and lives fighting every little worldy squirmish and you do basically nothing about the terrorists living in your own yard.
The ONLY know possible terrorists I may have living "my backyard", are a bunch of wanna-be Greenpeacers.
The rest of the folks here are cops, retired cops, retired Vets and a buttload of cattle ranchers and hay farmers.
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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Your alpha male attitude is typical of your kind.
Carry on with whatever you have to say buddy.
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The Chief
climber
Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
Oct 8, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
Your alpha male attitude is typical of your kind..... buddy.
If you say so AND no problem, buddy... Gerg!
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dirtbag
climber
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Like he was going to make it public after he ran for office in the early 50's that he was an active member of the Klan. Especially after the "Civil Rights" movement of the late 60's and being a full fledged career politician.
In other words, you're making sh#t up.
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Gerg
Trad climber
Calgary
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sorry is re-wording with "....." buddy supposed to mean something I am unaware of?
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