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rbord
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atlanta
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I try to hear what we're saying.
Yes I'm pissed off at that guy for killing the lion too. And sure, I hear us when we need to say that he's got a small penis or that he's a moron or whatever, and when we need to mob him in our moral outrage! to the point that he needs to go into hiding for fear for his own life (yea us!). I try to listen to what we're saying.
And sure, again, I hear our moral outrage! when we say praise Jesus! and what about those unborn children? and Obama is a little girl who soiled his panties (and how our expression of our outrage makes us good people), and when we need to say you're not the sharpest tool in the shed yet somehow you know that I'm the one who doesn't understand, and I'm the one who's pathetic and I'm the one who will burn in hell for my beliefs, and you need to laugh about it. Sure, I hear what we have to say, and I try to be ok with it, and I hope to handle it with more grace, and not need to blame you for it in order to make myself good.
And ok, sure, we used to be bad people because we owned slaves, but now we're good people because we don't, while we live in a society where black family median wealth is 13 times lower than white family wealth, and it's all their fault! because we've transcended racism and now we live in a colorblind society (yea us!). Sure, I try to hear what we humans have to say about ourselves, and do so with humility (epic fail :-), however difficult it is for us to hear.
But for me, very personally, sh#t the stuff that f*#king 15 yr old kid has to say about us humans is almost more than I can bear to hear without breaking down and inventing some (other) comforting imaginary belief about it. Maybe it is time for me to stand on my head so that I can see the world the right way up, the way that you see it, but how do you do that? I just struggle to keep my balance upside down while loving that precious little girl of mine.
So really honestly sincerely however you good people keep your balance is ok with me. What choice do we have when the alternative is to fall to our psychic deaths? But like the rest of us, I'm protected by brain damage, so next time we meet, you might need to remind me of your name, and how I was an as#@&%e to you, because my faulty database retrieval system might not let me remember. Sorry if I've blamed you for doing the same.
Wishing us well. And thanks for saying whatever it is that we need to say about ourselves, however painful that might be for the rest of us to hear.
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philo
climber
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Please Ron explain in English what exactly is not true in the article Nature posted.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
Boulder climber
Shitalkqua, WA
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I'm worried that Walter will try to off himself.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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I'm worried that Walter will try to off himself.
I guess it's a legitimate concern. The reactions to that, would speak volumes about people as individuals. And the power of the internet.
I hope he can re-invent himself and find redemption on some level. Like one of those prison inmates that finds Jesus or something.
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Gary
Social climber
From A Buick 6
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That's a smart answer Tami, I made the stupid mistake of saying something personal with this subject and was promptly shat on just for those types to get a dig in.. Sure as hell wont make that
mistake again.
No, Ron, you were the one doing the shatting, passing judgement on other people. And when you got hoisted by your own petard, you got all butt hurt. Too bad.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Those crazy knuckle draggers are ready to fight for what they believe in.
Saving the fetuses for a life of overpopulation, poverty and suffering.
How to Stop Planned Parenthood
http://www.redstate.com/diary/johndrogin/2015/08/03/stop-planned-parenthood/
By: John Drogin (Diary) | August 3rd, 2015 at 03:00 AM | 10
The U.S. Senate will vote today on a bill to defund Planned Parenthood and to stop forcing taxpayers to fund abortions and the barbaric sale of baby organs.
Unfortunately, this bill won’t be signed into law. Even if enough Democrats support it to overcome a filibuster, President Obama will veto it.
That is why the new Republican Congress must refuse to fund Planned Parenthood this year, even if the President and the Democrats choose to defeat the bill and cause a temporary government shutdown.
This is the only way to win this fight.
It’s not enough for them to hold an unsuccessful drive-by “show” vote, throw up their hands, and then proceed to fund Planned Parenthood. Republicans must refuse to fund it at all costs and take this issue to the American people.
Americans should not be forced to pay a single penny of tax dollars for these evil practices! (it's evil to provide services to women? Who knew? does it say that in the bible?)
Thankfully, Senators Ted Cruz, Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT) 100% and several other strong conservatives are willing to stand up to President Obama and the establishment politicians in their own party.
Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% understands what is at stake here and has vowed to oppose any legislation that provides taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood. He said he supports “any and all legislative efforts” to defund Planned Parenthood.
Make DC Listen has endorsed Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% because he’s the only candidate who has consistently stood up to the GOP establishment in DC.
This is an essential requirement because nothing will change in Washington as long as there is no difference between Republicans, driven only by a desire for power, and Democrats. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% has said, point blank, that both parties are the same now in DC and we have only the “Washington Party.”
If you agree, please sign up to join his fight today. Make a direct contribution to the Cruz for President campaign – the campaign gets 100% of the donation since Make DC Listen covers all the processing costs.
Defunding Planned Parenthood is a test for the Washington Cartel. It’s also an opportunity for them to show they’re truly willing to stand for innocent, unborn life – just watch the appalling videos again or listen to the chilling words “another boy,” then ask how can we not do everything humanly possible to stop another taxpayer penny from going to Planned Parenthood?
Ted Cruz is a courageous conservative, he has proven that he will keep his word, and he has the grassroots and financial support needed to win the presidential race.
In 2008 and 2012 conservatives were divided and the establishment gave us moderate nominees — that ended in disaster. The best way to avoid repeating those awful mistakes is for conservatives to unite around Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) 100% now because he will do what it takes to protect life and make sure America’s best days remain ahead.
Yes, we must shut down the Government in a fit of hysteria to get our way when we don't have the votes, we will just act like a bunch of babies and have a tantrum until they give us the attention we deserve, whaaa.
Just pull on the heartstrings of the weak minded morons and they will support our scam, and send us money lots of money, yea!
Yes, stay pure, vote for Ted Cruz, maybe make him a third Party Candidate after he loses the Primary, Stand up for Purity in Conservatism!!
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Second one.
Second one?
What's your point?
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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I hope he can re-invent himself and find redemption on some level.
I hope so too. If he truly cares about these animals perhaps he'll realize how wrong he is in the way he shows his love and turns a 180 and becomes an advocate for ending this disgusting "sport".
He's come out with a statement saying he didn't know they were baiting a know lion yet Paul Watson is claiming he knew he was doing it and that he targeted that animal. I've yet to see any real case made one way or the other on exactly who had the idea and who executed said idea.
Ziambabwe wants the extricate him and bring him up on charges but I suspect that has more to do with them trying to save face and blame the white guy. No doubt the white guy is responsible for this entire thing as he's the one that coughed up the money. But if that country is trying to not take fault in this incident and the entire "sport" as a whole I call BS. 100% BS.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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ANd how do you spell HYPORITE ???
It's spelled H-Y-P-O-R-I-T-E, but I don't know what that is.....
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Under-rite, as in "hidden ceremony", like poaching a lion?
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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The wingnuts upthread are too busy dogpiling on with their intolerant moral outrage,
Nobody does "moral" outrage and intolerance better than conservatives.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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i stopped reading that article as soon as i hit the Kimmel Meme. Entering abortion into this argument is a red herring and nothing more. Got an agenda to push - f*#k it, toss it into something non-related. Dude could use a philosophy 102 course - critical thinking.
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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that's a great link jonnyrig. Bet I'm the only one besides you who read it.
Wrong. I posted the same link earlier in the day.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"...I made the stupid mistake of saying something personal with this subject and was promptly shat on just for those types to get a dig in.."
Poor, sweet victimized Ron. Go report it to the mods (again).
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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You copped to it yourself, and even deleting your entire account hasn't made that evidence disappear. The only 'lie' going on is the one you repeat to yourself.
No matter. Let's stay on topic. Yes, that is the correct spelling of hypocrite.
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philo
climber
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I lived on the African Continent so that would be a yes. I've followed news from Africa closely for decades so that would be another yes.
My perspective differs from yours because I have nothing to gain from backing the wrong side of history. You're welcome to your opinion but the facts speak louder and clearer.
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