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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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John, you well know exactly which half of Congress has defended our ridiculously regressive tax structure. Come on, man. You can do better than that.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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k-man, the Obama years have been good for the billionaires. It's been poor for the rest of us.
John, are you sure that it's just the Obama years that have been good for the billionaires? As I recall, the W years weren't so great for the middle class either.
As a side note, any recovery is going to take energy + resources. You cannot snap your fingers and create wealth out of nothing--more "money" does not equate to more wealth.
With so many folks looking at the astronomical debt, of both this nation and the world, from where do you think the resources for a robust recovery will materialize?
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Stealing a post from the Climate thread:
Humanity Now Needs 1.5 Earths
That article fell out of this pretty right-on assessment:
How to Shrink the Economy without Crashing It: A Ten-Point Plan
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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^^^ +1 ^^^
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Tvash
climber
Seattle
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Helloooo Bush tax cuts! This is a PAINFULLY obvious issue.
No cigar, John. Not even a Tiparillo.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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JE: I always enjoy your polite posts, but I must add a clarifying question to this assertion:
With all due respect, that's only one question about economic performance. The economy has performed exceedingly poorly during most of the Obama administration's tenure, generating the weakest post-war recovery, by far. Every other deep post-war recession ended with a vigorous recovery, except for this one.
In those previous economic recoveries, was the oppossing party in congress activly trying to make the recession worse by stopping economic recovery measures from being introduced?
And in regard to another of your assertions:
Edit: k-man, the Obama years have been good for the billionaires. It's been poor for the rest of us.
Although I am far from achieving billionaire status: the last 6 years have been the best earning years of my life.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"...the Obama years have been good for the billionaires. It's been poor for the rest of us."
And exactly how is this any different than the Bush years?
And did you really think that McCain or Romney would have pursued policies that would have benefitted the 99% of us any better?
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John M
climber
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the trickle down model is a failure - the "job creators" never delivered.
I certainly hope that more people start realizing this.
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crankster
Trad climber
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This gets close to the reason for the election results...
A man who called into C-SPAN's "Washington Journal" Thursday morning referred to President Barack Obama as "that n***er" before getting booted off the air.
The caller, who gave his name as Anthony from San Diego, California, identified himself as a Republican and started out talking about the direction he thinks the new GOP majority in Congress should take.
"I would just like to say, that the Republicans -- and I'm a Republican -- please do not overreach," the caller began. "I know they're going to overreach but I'm telling you, if you advocate for the repeal of Obamacare and you get too extreme, then Hillary Clinton will be elected President in 2016."
"This is about race," he added. "The Republicans hate that nigger Obama."
Host Steve Scully quickly cut off the caller after he dropped the racial slur.
"Okay, I'm gonna stop you there," Scully said. "We're not gonna use that kind of language."
"You can certainly make your point, but you cross the line when you use language like that," he added. "And so to our viewers and listeners, I want to apologize."
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Liberal drum circle cry fest outta hand
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climbski2
Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
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You think government is dysfunctional now? We have not seen anything yet. It's gunna get really really bizarre.
Boners main priority.. repeal Obamacare. Yet they do not have enough votes to overturn Filibusters (without changing the rules again.. which they probably will do) But regardless they cannot overturn Vetoes.
Yeah.. this is going to go well.
Insanity... None of these folks that got hired are going to work on the peoples business.
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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You cannot help the poor by destroying the rich.
You cannot strengthen the weak by weakening the strong.
You cannot bring about prosperity by discouraging thrift.
You cannot lift the wage earner up by pulling the wage payer down.
You cannot further the brotherhood of man by inciting class hatred.
You cannot build character and courage by taking away people's initiative and independence.
You cannot help people permanently by doing for them, what they could and should do for themselves.
Abraham Lincoln
edited per correction by Apogee.
Quote by William John Henry Boetcker
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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'I need to see this play like I need a hole in the head.'
Abraham Lincoln
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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"The trouble with quotes on the internet is that it is difficult to determine whether or not they are genuine." -- Abraham Lincoln
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Hey Apogee,
My bad. Makes the last Lincoln quote I posted look prophetic.
But I did post that quote because there are universal truths in it.
That's my belief. Others may believe differently.
Politics is just religion in a different arena.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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nobody is proposing doing any of these things.
Just them
That's why the map now looks like this
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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TGT, you should keep that map around...it'll give you the kind of wood you haven't had in years.
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Pennsylenvy
Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
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So, I'm trying to contact Dr.F about buying a couple of his amazing cacti....anyone know what rock I can turn over to find him PM me please and carry on with your ideological game of supertopo stratego.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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It's funny that most Republicans think that any form of wealth redistribution is going to affect themselves in a negative way.
Oh no, we don't want to rock the boat of the top 1%! Then where would this country be?
What a joke.
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