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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 6, 2014 - 07:24pm PT
The CA government is fully aware of the water situation. Politricks get in the way of resolving it... mostly big ag$. Chuffhole only confuses the situation by insisting the scientific framework that produced the "study" he relies on to support his view is the same one he vigorously refutes the second it doesn't support his preconceptions. It is ironic that he fully endorses the paleoclimate research, which is more inferential than the anthropogenic climate change research, which he desperately tries to refute.

That the local and state leadership needs to get off their asses and take these studies seriously and prepare for what the NORM for this region is.... Dry.

I think they are waiting for your vital input on the matter. They are lost without you. We are all lost without you. What ever shall we do to prepare chuff? Help us OB-Rick, you are our only hope.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 6, 2014 - 08:19pm PT
Prior to the above emergency legislation, there was absolutely NO action nor legislation in preparation for this situation. NONE!

You fuking idiot... Jerry's family has been getting federal help for CA's water woes for over 50 years. You have to be a special kind of stupid if you think this issue just crossed Jerry's mind... and there was "NO action" in preparation for this situation.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 6, 2014 - 08:27pm PT
Google Pat Brown you idiot. Not only did CA ask for federal help for water issue, they got quite a bit of it. You know nothing about everything, don't you.
lubbockclimber

Trad climber
lubbock,tx
Apr 6, 2014 - 08:30pm PT
It's finally raining here in Texas!!!!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 6, 2014 - 09:26pm PT
Yeah, you'd think Jerry would have done something...

http://www.water.ca.gov/watertransfers/docs/9_drought-1976-77.pdf

(psst, dipsh#t... see page 91 and beyond where they talk about federal and other relief for the drought. Pay no attention to pg 167, it is above your head. And yes, of course Jerry is absolutely responsible for the State's response to water issues over the last 30 years.)

San Luis... federal funding for part of the SWP. Thanks Pat.

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 6, 2014 - 09:39pm PT
derpy derpy derp

Chuff Ricki for Governor!
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 6, 2014 - 11:27pm PT
"Infra-WHAT?"

http://patbrowndocumentary.com/trailer/

[Click to View YouTube Video]This is all SUCH a flood of endlessly fascinating debate, but it ain't really helping one little bit, except to make others shy away...

Pat Brown is the only California State pol that I still admire after all is said and that's that.

He did more in his terms than any other guv, and he did it all with dial telephones, too, none of this push-button crap-ola.

His kid's just a WUSSY, too. Not much there, just the name. At least he's not evil.

(And thank God he got married!)

And the drought goes on.
http://cemerced.ucanr.edu/about/weather/?weather=station&station=148

http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/04/01/california-sierra-snow-survey-drought/7169631/
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 6, 2014 - 11:48pm PT
"infra-what"... who cares, it is Jerry's fault.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 6, 2014 - 11:50pm PT
No, it's yer fault. Or the Chirff's. :0)

Draw straws...
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 7, 2014 - 01:21am PT
What mouse? Jerry asked Obama for help. That's it... drought officially over... end of story.

That is if you believe there ever was a drought... which there wasn't if you consider the Pliocene... which is TOTALLY relevant.




But then, living in a cave as you do, well, the situ most assuredly does not affect you.

Not as much as not living in California won't affect me. F*#k this place. Too rainy. Back to the intermountain west for me.
Charlie D.

Trad climber
Western Slope, Tahoe Sierra
Apr 7, 2014 - 09:41am PT
28 feet and still heading down, yikes! Interesting read.......

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/04/06/6299023/san-joaquin-valley-sinking-as.html
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 7, 2014 - 12:30pm PT
SO much for the State Leadership learning from and taking action stemming from this valuable 1977 DWR Report where the above issue of ground water management was critically addressed.

I love it how the authoritarian's solution to everything is... AUTHORITY. A year of drought, which has already been authoritatively decided NOT to be a drought, and the Governor should wave his magic wand and fix everything.

Nevermind the decades of precedent and $$... it was Jerry's fault.
Nevermind the other gov's who did nothing... blame it on Jerry.
Never mind Jerry's preemptive water conservation efforts and post-drought actions... blame Jerry.

In short, rely on AUTHORITY for everything... blame AUTHORITY for everything... meanwhile continue to do and understand NOTHING about everything.

Unless it has to do with climate change... then the AUTHORITIES better not do ANYTHING because chuff doesn't believe (or even come close to understanding) the science yet.

Ah... per the DWR's 1977 Drought Report recommendations, that was one of the priority actions...

Recommended by Jerry's leadership. When was the first comprehensive investigation of groundwater resources in CA conducted? When were any funds allocated or updates made? (Hint: Brown, Davis, Brown). See Bulletin 118, Water Code 12924, and updates.

I know, I know... effective groundwater management should be implemented regardless of whether we understand the groundwater systems or not.

AUTHORITY... regardless of knowledge... Chuff Ricki for Governor!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Apr 7, 2014 - 12:40pm PT
You Bruce are certainly no Dudley Doright. No that other character, Snidely Whiplash, almost perfectly describes your character or rather lack thereof.Watch out frosty back there's a chinese coal train a-coming right over your backside.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 7, 2014 - 01:27pm PT
I've done a lot to help solve the problem over the last 30 years. And I will continue to do everything I can, although not in this state. You got shot at and peeled potatoes and now do nothing for anyone but yourself. Did you fix the problem over there? Or did you fail, only to have another Repugnikunt leader send another group of young people scrambling to fix it, wasting their potential that could have been applied to solving real problems rather than killing poor people for oil. Thanks for your service.

Chuff, do you think the only taxes you pay are income taxes?
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Apr 7, 2014 - 01:43pm PT
"WE"???


Ah, nope. Not mine. Maybe YOUR's.


That is of course if you ever changed your original residency from Tenn.


BTW, I and many others in the CA Dis Vet Category are in a whole different tax bracket.

Ah, but the Repugs have a plan for YOU, and the rest of the 47% of "takers" that rip off tax money from the rest of us. They want to take you to the FLAT TAX, so that you can pay the same rate as Sam Walton. None of your income tax deductible.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 7, 2014 - 01:43pm PT
Hey, I'm sure that's the number someone gave him and it fits his world view that he is better than everyone else... in fact 6% better than perfect... so OF COURSE it is accurate!
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2014 - 12:42pm PT
Totally normal Dingus. 50 million years ago the Earth was 14C hotter than it is today. Totally NORMAL.
WBraun

climber
Apr 8, 2014 - 12:46pm PT
^^^^ Says the guy who was there with his thermometer ^^^^^^
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
Apr 8, 2014 - 12:55pm PT
says the guy who wouldn't know a geothermometer if it were crammed up his ass.
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Apr 8, 2014 - 01:12pm PT
Oh, it's gonna take a miracle...[Click to View YouTube Video]

And 106% sounds like one.

Care to share your secret?

You fellers are starting to get irrigated with one another.

That's no way to live.

It's time to tighten belts again, like in the mid-seventies with the gas crunch and the late seventies with the huge drought.

Life would not be worth crap if all was halcyon seas and salad days.

I'm glad we got folks like Chief to help us bail and folks like Dingus who can tell us how long we may need to bail...

This dry, too, shall pass,
The changes, though, will last and last.

Subsidence does not go away. Fact.
Deep wells do not recharge fast here. Fact.

It's a State of Change, after all. But you can only make so many changes before you ruin everything. We have paved a lot of parking lots so far, more than we'll ever need.

We've pumped way too much groundwater, more than we ever should have, mostly in the name of greed (read "survival," whether you are a big or a small farmer--y'all are equally guilty. You really do need that big-ass Ram to drive to the Elks every Tuesday and to haul your roping horse, huh?)

Dipshits...

You can't tell things are changing day to day, but they do. It takes a lifetime (forty years, to use a biblical metaphor) to notice them, or a career in the field of water conservation & use, or related ones.

So keep yelling and yammering about who's right. Everyone's curious about that issue, especially.

You could just take that conversation over to the Sidetrack Bar and it would be nice.
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