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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 12, 2013 - 12:37am PT
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I never said or implied it was about me, and it isn't about you Ken, it is and was about affordable lodging for climbers in the Boulder area.
I'm glad the AAC is moving on, I have no doubt that they will find a better option in the Boulder area and I really have changed my opinion of them from this thread.
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kcangi
climber
Eldorado Springs, CO
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Jul 12, 2013 - 12:44am PT
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Lovegasoline, Boulder Canyon could be a candidate for a climber's lodge, or Gunbarrel, for that matter. There are several areas within ten miles which would work. Maybe climbers should solicit the state park system about installing a campground. After all, they are the managers of the climbing venue in question. Why should the juxtaposing, residential neighborhood have to bare the impact of a bunkhouse that won't even offer dining accommodations? All we have here is a local convenient mart/liquor store 3 miles up the road. Picture the scenario for yourself. And plug in the "fact" that this is a neighborhood. How are visitors without vehicles going to get to the store for food and down to Boulder? It's a bad idea. The closest grocery store is almost 9 miles away, and there are no buses from here.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 12, 2013 - 12:48am PT
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KC...have you ever stayed in a hostel? I doubt it...all the ones I have stayed at (50++) have offered food and kitchen services.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 12, 2013 - 12:58am PT
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Who have I talked sh#t about? As to climbing in Eldo I climbed there way before you ever showed up and continue to climb there now..I just don't check in with or your friend/locals.
I doubt that you ever have travel and stayed in hostels as you might not be so jaded in your thought process.
You don't have to listen or response to me..you just can't help yourself.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 12, 2013 - 01:01am PT
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A nice summer alternative is one of the many campsites around Estes Park.
Maybe, but is anyone really going to camp in Estes Park in the summer and drive to Eldo to climb??!!!
On a different note, with all due respect to the people who choose to live in Eldorado Springs, I don't think one needs to know the names of whatever ragamuffins happen to be there at any particular time in order to have a valid opinion as to county regulations and their application. Last time I checked, there are a whole lot more of us (people who live in City and County of Boulder) than there are of you. I didn't support the planned hostel either, just sayin.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 12, 2013 - 01:06am PT
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Boulder is the logical spot and within striking distances of many great routes and areas. Finding the proper location will be hard but I think it will be great asset once they do.
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kcangi
climber
Eldorado Springs, CO
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Jul 12, 2013 - 01:17am PT
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Sorry for the confusion, Lovegasoline.
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blahblah
Gym climber
Boulder
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Jul 12, 2013 - 01:58am PT
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And you wonder why Eldo residents don't want a climber hostel here.
No, I don't, I know why: NIMBYism.
Pretty clear. Happened to work out in this case cuz it was kind of a dumb plan anyway. I support giving the Eldo residents all the respect and rights they deserve, but no more.
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jul 12, 2013 - 09:07am PT
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Heh, I forgot about about the plastic leg & psychedelic powder.
Luvgas, hitchhiking up and down Boulder Canyon is very easy, I never had to wait more than five minutes to catch a ride. There is plenty of climbing in the Canyon with Castle Rock being the crown jewel, about ten minutes from Nederland. If Boulder Canyon was located east of the Mississippi it would be a National Park, out here, it's just another canyon.
Hitching down to Boulder, (20 mins away) most folks drop you off at the Library. From there you can walk up to Chautauqua Park, maybe 30 mins. to access the Flatirons, depending on what you want to climb there it’s another 20 mins. to an hour to the rock.
Eldo is a bit farther away, you can take a bus south down Broadway to the last stop and start hitching from there but I don’t know how easy that would be since I’ve never done it.
Best bet is to make a sign saying “Climber heading to Eldorado Springs” and you will probably catch a ride from some other knuckle dragging plebeian.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Jul 12, 2013 - 09:51am PT
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Boulder as an option is simply unaffordable, due to real estate prices in the area. The only viable alternative is the State of Colorado and the State Parks system to provide a campground.
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ydpl8s
Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
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Jul 12, 2013 - 11:54am PT
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And in the end.... The squeeky wheel does get the grease....again.
"If it does not fit, you must aquit!"
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goatboy smellz
climber
Nederland-GulfBreeze
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Jul 12, 2013 - 12:17pm PT
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Jul 9, 2013 - 06:56pm PT
If (when?) I visit Eldo, my main impression of the people of Eldo Springs will be as they have represented themselves here.
FWIW, that is a bit short sighted, I do not think we can judge a society with such a limited data base.
It would be foolish to think this forum represents all Californian's as much as this thread represents all the residents of Eldorado Springs.
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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Jul 12, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
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Boulder as an option is simply unaffordable, due to real estate prices in the area. The only viable alternative is the State of Colorado and the State Parks system to provide a campground.
what?! the government is good for something!
I guess this spells the doom of a resurgence of self-sufficiency among the climbing community to have its premier advocacy organization appeal to local and state government for a solution...
on second thought, maybe that's how it all works anyway.
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Todd Eastman
climber
Bellingham, WA
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Jul 12, 2013 - 12:35pm PT
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An AAC "hostel" takeover of the ashram...
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JLP
Social climber
The internet
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Jul 12, 2013 - 12:36pm PT
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An open public campground that close to the Front Range would be stampeded and overrun by Mexicans, rednecks, white trash and motorheads with their loud music, generators, broken bottles and litter - just like all the other campgrounds in the Splatte, Peak-Peak, Estes - basically everywhere. F*#king savages and Neanderthals. For climbers to get what they want, there will have to be filters and nannies.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Jul 12, 2013 - 12:39pm PT
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JLP wrote: For climbers to get what they want, there will have to be filters.
Hopefully one to keep your racist, negative ass out.
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Deekaid
climber
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Jul 12, 2013 - 12:40pm PT
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rolling rolling rolling
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jul 12, 2013 - 02:56pm PT
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Bum, bum, bummer.
I hope the AAC can get something done here.
Eldo is a jewel!
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o-man
Social climber
Paia,Maui,HI
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Jul 12, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
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I’ve been following this thread since the beginning and I am not surprised that the American Alpine Club has decided to not go forward with its proposed hostel project.
I moved to Eldorado Canyon in the winter of 1971. I lived in a delightful little rundown cabin with the words “We Blew Inn” written in bottle caps above the front door. The cabin was located just west of where the post office is today.
That was the period where I discovered the sport that directed my life for the next thirty five years.
For my first twenty years of climbing I spent the lion’s share of my free time doing routes and often just hanging out in that wonderful place. It is where I first encountered and shared adventures with many of the lifelong friends. Many of which I still have today.
When I moved away from that little cabin I continued to spend many weekends in Eldorado. We would rent a space in the little campground across the bridge from Supremacy Slab. It was a great little camp ground. We got to know Mr. Fowler pretty well and often he would hang out with us and shoot the breeze till early evening. Often we would be the only ones in that little camp area. It wasn’t cheep but by today’s standards it was a steal.
There is something magic in waking early on a summer morning to the sound of the creek and after coffee and a bite to eat, shouldering your pack and going out climbing till lunch. Then we would hang out by the creek during the heat of the day and then do another route in the cool of the evening.
I know that it’s probably a pipe dream but I would love to see a small (walk in only) campground maintained by the state Park Service in that same spot in Eldorado Canyon.
Why wouldn’t it work? Many Colorado State parks have campgrounds.
BTW:I am planning on climbing some of my favorite moderate traditional classics in Eldorado Canyon in early August while I attend to some issues at my house in Bear Creek Canyon. I might be looking for some mid week partners to hook up with if my regular guys are busy with work.
Olaf Mitchell
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DanaB
climber
CT
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Jul 12, 2013 - 10:30pm PT
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would be stampeded and overrun by Mexicans
JLP,
The above is part of what you wrote. If you had any courage, you'd have signed your name. There is a lot of ignorant crap posted on this site, but this is top ten material.
Dana Bartlett
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