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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 25, 2011 - 11:33am PT
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Is this a surprise to you or justification.
Look if shoppers do it the why can't PIGS?
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Nov 25, 2011 - 11:39am PT
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cops attempted to tea-bag students. students put their heads down, refusing. pepper-spraying ensues from pent-up, latent homosexual frustration. cop becomes laughing stock of every website imaginable, surrogate penis in hand.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 25, 2011 - 11:43am PT
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Eat PIG, the other white supremacist meat.
Pulled Pork in Pepper sauce.
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happiegrrrl
Trad climber
www.climbaddictdesigns.com
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Nov 25, 2011 - 11:46am PT
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Loves Gasoline has spent a great amount of time presenting valid and credible points of information, and facts, on this and other OWS threads. Personally, I appreciate his efforts, which are backed up with resource links, or else clearly stated as his(?) opinions.
Spinning a person's words, or simply making stuff up and attributing it to him, as some have done with LG posts, is a defense strategy of those who either know well they are in the wrong and are trying to obfuscate, or disillusioned by propoganda.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 25, 2011 - 01:16pm PT
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Without our 1st Amendment/Bill of Rights and our ability to peacefully protest, using non-violent civil disobedience, think Jesus, Gandhi, MLK, Howard Zinn, John Lennon etc. then we have nothing.
Yes, it will piss-off TPTB. That is the point.
The point is to wake up TPTB and to wake up the people of our Nation, the World, to the civil right loses and abuses, and to the social injustices, and to the insanity of those that have political power and economic power that hold everyone else down, and wield it corruptly.
Power to the People.
John Lennon-Power To The People-Offical Video-HQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RtvlBS4PMF0
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 25, 2011 - 01:32pm PT
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Skippity do-da,
You forgot the full qoute . . .
Without our 1st Amendment/Bill of Rights and our ability to peacefully protest, using non-violent civil disobedience, think Jesus, Gandhi, MLK, Howard Zinn, John Lennon etc. then we have nothing.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 25, 2011 - 02:37pm PT
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The UC Davis brats were unlawful, not violent. Both are actionable by LEO.
You may argue that the LEO should have just 'removed' them peacefully, but I'd argue that could have gone very bad. In typical brat fashion, they would have leg-dragged, flailed about, and probably injured themselves.
If a cop tells you to disperse or else...you'd have to be a fool not to do so. You cannot have protesters behaving this way. After letting them do their stupid protest, they were instructed that enough was enough. Time to disperse. They disobeyed LEO instructions.
You cannot do that in this society without consequence.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Nov 25, 2011 - 02:38pm PT
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the cops are always right,
don't buck the System.
lay down and crawl like sheep.
obey your master.
this is a slow news week,
i mean the Watts riots, 100 blocks of LA completely torched, snipers on roof tops shooting cops,
it took major rex applegate to organize the riot police in order to stop that one.
pepper spray?
bad, but not like watts or detroit city rock city.
has anybody ever been to a KISS concert?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Nov 25, 2011 - 03:05pm PT
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Sprock, let me know when you get into my perimeter down here again. We got slabs to hike in Devil's Canyon and Aquarian, Bra!!!!
Over and out...
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 25, 2011 - 03:12pm PT
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Skip and BASE,
I'm going climbing. I'll be quick.
You guys don't know your Bible.
Jesus constantly made the TPTB in the Jewish faith and as well as the Temple High Priests in Jerusalem, and King Herod of Antipas of the Roman Government et al., up-set, mad, put them on the spot and he called them out constantly speaking truth to power, so much so they conspired to kill him and they did. They hated what he had to say and the threat to their corrupt authority. They hated him.
They were very envious of his truth, his message, and his supernatural powers over nature, and his ability to relate to the people in truth, without violence and an iron fist, but with love, peace and compassion.
He was a constant threat to their corrupt power and authority. They plotted constantly against him. Jesus was an awesome public debater. They could never fool him. He knew their hearts and thoughts. He used their own words against them. Jesus is the best example anyone could ask for on how to live our lives. That was the purpose of his life was to give us a model on how to be Holy and how to live, and then he took our place on the cross and died to save us. He loves us with his life. But he is the conqueror of death. "Death where is thy sting?"
He was all about peaceful protest. He was all about civil disobedience. They asked him by what authority does he do the things he does? They also asked him to stop doing it. He didn't. You can't stop the truth and how to live right, no matter who asks you to do so.
We Christians know there is a limit to what the government can ask us to do and that we will comply. If Obama or another asks me to stop worshipping GOD, I won't. If they ask me to worship a man or idol I won't. If they try to take my Bible away from me I will resist. If they ask me to deny Jesus Christ I won't. If they ask me to go against the 10 Commandments, I will not purposefully do so (I might screw up accidentally now and then because I'm human, but there is forgiveness). If they ask me to accept any kind of sin as a way of life I won't. If they ask me to implant or take a mark so that I can't buy or sell without it, I won't. I would take death instead, if it ever comes to that. At some point in our future it will come to that. I don't know when that will be. I'm not looking forward to that period of time. The Book of Revelation goes into great detail about that awful period of time. It's coming.
Jesus Christ's death on the Cross by the Roman Government did two things: it proved the corruption of man's rule and government, he was innocent and blame-less and without sin, but like a cosmic 4D chess game that was prophesied thousands of years before in the word of GOD that it would happen just as it did, GOD used the opportunity to die for the sins of the World, thereby giving salvation to mankind for those who ask freely of him and then follow him. He also established his Church and his Kingdom. He's coming back to make it all right. However, he has given mankind time to make up their minds and to chose who they will serve.
Will you serve Lucifer or will you serve Jesus Christ? You can't serve two masters. I choose the Creator and my father GOD, and his son Jesus Christ.
He was/is Emmanuel, GOD with us. He will be back. He won't be so nice to those who are evil the 2nd time around. Chose wisely.
We have a right and an obligation to stand up and protest corruption and social injustice and the loss of our civil rights and to do so peacefully and to use civil disobedience. Yes, it can come at a cost. GOD expects nothing less from us. GOD is against corruption and social injustice. He expects us to stand against it and to call it out, and to help those less fortunate.
"What does it profit a man to gain the whole World but to lose his soul?"
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 25, 2011 - 03:26pm PT
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Skip,
They are not asking for the government to pay for student loans. They are asking for social justice. They are asking to make things right.
TPTB can spent Trillions of dollars for War, and to bail-out Banks, and then with our money!, yet they can't provide decent social services like health care, affordable education, jobs, livable wages, etc. etc. etc. the list goes on and on.
This is what the entire OWS and Occupy college campuses is all about.
It is about social justice. It is about doing the right thing for people. It is about the rich holding down the poor. It is an on-going corrupt condition of the humankind that has been going on for thousands of years and people are tired of it in our era and in our time of history.
It is wrong. If you can't see it, then GOD help you.
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Degaine
climber
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Nov 25, 2011 - 03:38pm PT
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Nice posts, Base104
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rincon
Trad climber
SoCal
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Nov 25, 2011 - 04:45pm PT
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You may argue that the LEO should have just 'removed' them peacefully, but I'd argue that could have gone very bad. In typical brat fashion, they would have leg-dragged, flailed about, and probably injured themselves.
Not necessarily so:
Compared to the reported mayhem (and journalist beatdowns) in New York today -- where Occupy Wall Street is orchestrating a similar day of action against America's financial institutions -- the Los Angeles arrests were pretty mellow, according to witnesses at the scene. Still very emotional, though, as protesters were carried off, one by one, by LAPD officers in riot gear.
http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/11/lapd_arrests_23_occupy_la_protesters.php
Give them turkeys not pepper spray!
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/11/lapd-gives-occupy-la-protesters-thanksgiving-turkeys.html
Beck occupies a unique position in the world of Occupy protests and is one of the only Police Chiefs in the country to establish a relationship with protesters that is based on respect and dignity.
Los Angeles stands alone in its deferential handling of the Occupy LA protest, demonstrating a commitment to the constitutional rights of the protesters that is in stark contrast to the violent behavior in cities such as Davis, Portland, Oakland, and New York City.
http://soapboxla.blogspot.com/
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 25, 2011 - 04:57pm PT
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I'm sorry, in the grand scheme of things being pepper sprayed in order to get your student loans paid for is definitely worth it.
There you go again Fetus Eater.
When you choose to stop lying your words may have some value.
As of now they are maggoty sh#t bombs.
You are Vile and so far from Christian moral teachings that Jebus himself would kick your worthless self so bad you'd be wearing your ass for a hat.
BASE 104, great posts, very reasoned, very articulate.
Sadly wasted on the mouth breathing flat Earthers of FoX viewers.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 25, 2011 - 05:25pm PT
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!3 million to redress grievances is a small price to pay and much less than the tax payers money wasted by the Republican goon squad of hypocrites who went on a White House witch hunt for blow jobs.
Are you attempting to make a point FrogFart?
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Nov 25, 2011 - 05:26pm PT
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Well, the Occupyers may get their wish soon. With the foreordained failure of the so-called bipartisan debt reduction panel (more Republican intransigence/fantasy), won't the Bush tax cuts for the rich automatically cease to be in force at the end of the year?
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 25, 2011 - 05:41pm PT
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But the Truth will set you Free.
Try it sometime.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Nov 25, 2011 - 05:43pm PT
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The 2 year extension of the tax cuts the Kenyan Musim President Obama signed into law expire in thirteen months, at the end of 2012.
The "automatic" cuts, across the board, are scheduled to take effect at the same time, in January of 2013.
So, congress now has over a year to come to some agreement themselves to reduce the national debt some 1.5 trillion dollars, and if they don't, then the automatic cuts happen.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Nov 25, 2011 - 05:55pm PT
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Why don't we line up the RepubliCant congress and pepper spray them till they move. Their resistance is violence to America and Americans.
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sandstone conglomerate
climber
sharon conglomerate central
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Nov 25, 2011 - 06:16pm PT
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I bet the "Kenyan Musim President" is back in office next election. Did you watch the, hahah, Repulican Debates? Seriously, who do they have? Seriously?
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