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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Jan 31, 2011 - 03:28pm PT
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I suspect that ruling has a ways to go. The SCOTUS itself will probably make the ultimate decision.
John
Edit:
I feel like an interloper with the 1,000th post.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 31, 2011 - 05:01pm PT
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Locker...I've been studying the old repub thread and this is vintage Rox....the real deal...At midnight he'll turn into a leg humping wolf...
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 31, 2011 - 05:12pm PT
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That's very thoughtful of you oh evil one...I think Rox would really love some of Lockers turd corn though..?
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jan 31, 2011 - 05:16pm PT
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Yes, Obama is clearly, personaly, responsible for any technical problems with Electric cars.
The tea party is the best thing that has happened for the Democratic party since Palin.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 31, 2011 - 05:20pm PT
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Don't those electric car owners have AA....?
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jan 31, 2011 - 08:49pm PT
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Electric Cars
You can get all the power you need to go to Yosemite and back from just the solar cells placed on your roof
thats the untold story
we could be off the grid and Big OIL
LMAO!!!!!
Let's say we could get a car so small and light that it cruised on 15 hp.
That's +/- 11,250 watts or 937 Sq ft of solar panel.
So if you make the panel 8' legal load width it's 117 feet long.
Won't even make it around the turns.
And, won't run at all in the shade of the trees.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 31, 2011 - 09:33pm PT
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Fattrad....I think you should put your money where your mouth is....If Obama wins you have to eat a bucket of salted turd corn....
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jan 31, 2011 - 11:31pm PT
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So for every hour your 1000 sq ft roof full of panels, That cost $48,000 ($4 per watt X 12 per sq ft.)provides 15 horsepower per hour of mid day sun to your batteries.
A Leaf has a range of 75 miles, on a really good day.
Better move to El Portal and have something to do while your car charges for a couple of days.
And, if you are a commuter, what good do the panels at home do if the car is in the parking lot at work?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Jan 31, 2011 - 11:36pm PT
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TGT...can obama do anything right..? sheesh..!
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 31, 2011 - 11:45pm PT
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TGT is right. We're Americans, we could never figure out how to make solar more efficient. Never!
Republicans are nothing but nattering nabobs of negativity. Just get out of the way and let us get to work making this country a better place to live. That's all we ask, we'll even let y'all in on the goods.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Jan 31, 2011 - 11:56pm PT
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Libs always think that all it takes are three things to change the laws of physics or human nature. (Like king Canute)
1. Sufficiently good intentions.
2. A law.
3. Enough bureaucrats to enforce it.
If solar cells were 100% efficient you could only get about one horsepower per square yard, at noon, mid summer.
Why don't you propose a law to mandate an increase the output of the sun?
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dirtbag
climber
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Do nothing and pass the buck, that's what you guys do best. Yee-haw...me firstism.
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corniss chopper
climber
not my real name
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Gary - If you have to ask...(as the old saying goes)..you can't afford it.
Conservatives just go out and do stuff. Permission is for 2nd place losers.
Why did you think you need my permission to make a more efficient
solar panel?
and a correction: Liberals are the only nattering nabobs of negativity.
NPR listeners are a good example. Brainwashed nuts. Up is down with them
on most subjects.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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cc, the only thing we can't afford is a bunch of "can't do" conservatives.
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corniss chopper
climber
not my real name
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Yes its true. Why brainwashed NPR'ers do not see the world as it really is. And NPR even admits here that they suspect Liberals reap a kind of enjoyment as they knowingly delude themselves.
A delusional audience. Well.
Is Liberal Bias What NPR Listeners Secretly Want?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4717847
NPR commits the sin of omission daily:
...that NPR's biases are not to be found in what it
broadcasts (although its programs are not without
their slants, implications and suggestions and listeners are
always quick to point them out), but in what it doesn't broadcast...
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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While NPR has a bias that I find obvious, I also find it easy to filter. At least they sometimes air worthwhile material.
I just got my first exposure to Fox News's normal programming. I do not watch Fox except on election nights. When I got home late tonight, my wife had Fox on, with Hannity and Ann Coulter discussing the situation in Egypt. No wonder there are so many Democrats! Their nonsense was so inane, it was almost [emphasis on almost] enough to turn me into a Democrat.
John
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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While NPR has a bias that I find obvious, I also find it easy to filter. At least they sometimes air worthwhile material.
I just got my first exposure to Fox News's normal programming. I do not watch Fox except on election nights. When I got home late tonight, my wife had Fox on, with Hannity and Ann Coulter discussing the situation in Egypt. No wonder there are so many Democrats! Their nonsense was so inane, it was almost [emphasis on almost] enough to turn me into a Democrat.
John
John, for the life of me, I can't understand why they have such folks. I think there are very reasonable arguments for the conservative position on most things, and making and sticking to those arguments would go far in capturing the independent vote that is needed for any election. I can't watch them. I also can't watch the equivalent liberal programming.
I listen to NPR daily. I like the PBS News Hour, I think the most objective.
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JEleazarian
Trad climber
Fresno CA
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Ken,
I don't watch Fox News regular programming because I think it's mainly entertainment. Last night did nothing to change that perception, and I don't have time for that kind of entertainment.
I will say in their defense that this was at least presented as opinion. I, too, listen and contribute to our local PBS station, but not because I find it objective. I listen because they articulate an orthodox liberal view, even though they seem to think they don't. Also, that station plays a bit of classical music. I read The Nation to get the view from farther left. These are worthwhile ways for me to spend my time because they view things from a different perspective from mine.
John
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dirtbag
climber
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The Dow is flirting with 12000. Our Pinko Prez had better get going if he means to dismantle capitalism in the next 2 years.
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Gary
climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Yes, and I'm doing nicely, but what happens when the stimulus stops??????????
I thought the stimulus was a bust that had no effect on the economy?
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