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k-man
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SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2012 - 04:58pm PT
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Base, I am in alignment.
Actually, Revolution 9 wasn't just a crazy Beatles tune, it too contains the instructions on how to fall in line, or be rounded up in intern camps. What the heck do you really think that line about If, you've become naked really means?? Ha. And when played backwards, it reveals the secret codes of when to gather, in GPS coordinates. The only problem is that most people lack the ability to play it backwards now that the turntable has gone the way of the CB.
Safe to say, Hwy. 395 is a safe zone, so Bishop is all right. As are the radio transmission stations in the Owens Valley.
Shhhh.... You'll wake the sleepers with more talk of this, though.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Nov 19, 2012 - 05:12pm PT
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Healjy, get with the program or find yourself eating grass.
The aliens are coming. We have known this since just prior to WWII.
In Alaska, there is a secret installation to affect the Earth's magnetic field and weather called HAARP
http://www.haarp.alaska.edu/
They downplay its actual purpose, but it is being used for all sorts of secret experiments involving controlling the planet's ionosphere during auroral activity when the planet's field lines bisect the surface.
Hey, don't take my word for it. Jesse Ventura is a straight talker and with his black ops connections knows all about it.:
http://news.gaeatimes.com/haarp-alaska-conspiracy-theories-by-jesse-ventura-239257/
And you got it wrong. The officers in the Navy are tools. The real secret stuff is all run by master chiefs or whatever kind of Chief there is.
Just wait until the Mayan Calendar expires. HAARP is engineering a pole shift and the only survivors will live in old ICBM silos. I have one, but I only have room for females. Interested females can PM me a photo to get the ball rolling.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Nov 19, 2012 - 05:14pm PT
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the chef still wont answer bobinc on defense spending vs epa funding,his own reality must be giving him headaches.dont let out those secrets base104 your going to scare somebody.
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bobinc
Trad climber
Portland, Or
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Nov 19, 2012 - 05:15pm PT
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DOE is a huge target, Chief. I have no problem giving them grief. Only a sliver of their $40 billion budget is related to non-nuke projects, anyway, so whatever.
Still interested in how you feel about the DoD budget. A very high fraction of the tax dollars that get shoveled into their maw result in products that we would never want to actually USE. They have developed non-productive R&D into high art. Doesn't this make a Man of Action like yourself hopping mad?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Nov 19, 2012 - 05:32pm PT
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nor you,that was in new york,dont worry, they are not coming to the land of mongrels under the whites
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Nov 19, 2012 - 05:37pm PT
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The DOE does a little oil and gas work that I know of, but not much. They came into existence to deal with nukes and nuke plants.
The DOE does have an arm called the Energy Information Administration. It is outstanding and the gold standard for global energy statistics. They are kind of the keepers of the flame. The CIA of energy, although it is all public.
You can get lost in that website learning and learning for days on end. It is fantastic. I bet that their budget is pretty small, though. Mainly a bunch of number crunchers.
The EIA rules, though. Cut the DOE if you like, but hang on to EIA. Its budget is around 100 million/year, and damn well worth every penny. It has real value in projecting certain price forecasts. Everyone in the industry uses them.
For some really goofy sh#t, go check out "Operation Plowshare." That was a 1950's era attempt at using nukes for peaceful purposes. Blowing out harbors and the like. One of the infamous tests was at the Nevada test site. They planted the gadget at a shallow depth to see if it could be used for big excavation projects. The shot was known as Sedan and caused more fallout than any other test in the U.S.
Then, think about hydraulic fracturing, they had 4 or 5 underground tests in low permeability sandstone gas reservoirs. Nope, they didn't breach the surface. They didn't produce much gas, and what they did was radioactive.
There used to be a several mile exclusion zone around the wells in the piceance Basin in NW Colorado, but the exclusion zone is now down to a one mile radius. They were that pitiful.
A couple were north of Rifle and at least one was in the San Juan Basin of NW New Mexico..a prolific natural gas basin.
Them DOE boys were kind of nuts, but the Russians tried about triple the number of these possibly peaceful uses. Some were catastrophes of some order or another.
You have to have someone to keep track of the nukes and nuke plants. If you want to axe their budget, please keep the EIA. The EIA rules.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Nov 19, 2012 - 05:39pm PT
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Chief, if you want to bog down this thread with crap 24/7, then I can as well. Besides, you have made it pretty clear that you don't like science, people with college degrees, and generally snot nosed kids with giant brains.
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bobinc
Trad climber
Portland, Or
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Nov 19, 2012 - 05:47pm PT
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At the risk of pointing out the obvious, Chief, once the towers were hit, not much our defense capabilities could do other than be on high alert for more of the same...
Shrub's willful ignorance of intelligence leading up to Sept 11 was the primary facilitator of what happened that day. Extremely costly and very tragic for many.
My question remains, though-- it's a matter of priorities, isn't it? We spend a lot of money being ready for threats, perceived or real. You contend that preparing ourselves to deal with climate change is not worth the cost. I contend we should at least spend some money on this issue. In the US, $700 billion a year is devoted to defense and perhaps 5% of that amount is devoted to climate change research. Does that seem equitable?
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Nov 19, 2012 - 05:56pm PT
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with that!
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Nov 19, 2012 - 06:40pm PT
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what it says,it says your short.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 19, 2012 - 06:41pm PT
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WOW !!!!!
What a nutcase this stupid ass Malemute is.
He's got this huge boner for this stupid sh!t that has no bearing on this thread.
Malemute you are one stupid fuked up dude .....
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 19, 2012 - 06:43pm PT
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Ya know, there could be a lot more cool stuff on this thread if Chief had not made it all about Chief.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 19, 2012 - 07:30pm PT
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I didn't make it such.
Bullsh#t, Chief. Count your posts to this thread.
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Nov 19, 2012 - 07:32pm PT
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BINGO!
You agree that this AGW issue has absolutely nothing to do with the environment. That it is all about your political (economic and social) agenda.
Got it.
Malemute did not say that Chief. You made it up. Nice strawman.
It's time to start a campaign to ignore the Chief.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2012 - 07:52pm PT
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There's been a lot of great things posted to this thread.
Lately, it's been almost 100% about The Chief, people getting caught in his web of lunacy.
I see that even Ed has lost his patience.
One of the first lessons you learn in persuasion is to not turn the people you want to persuade against you.
Some of the folks on this thread are very successful at persuasion.
Others, not so much.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 19, 2012 - 08:14pm PT
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Any post I made in ref to myself were from attacks from you and the others.
No Rick, you know zero about climate or science, and show zero interest in learning. That leaves ...
Count how many posts you made to this thread.
Count how many posts you made about yourself, your feelings, your life.
Count how many posts you made to attack other people.
Count how many posts you made to copy stuff from the Internet.
Compare any of these numbers to the next runners-up. You've worked quite hard to make this thread be all about you.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Nov 19, 2012 - 08:59pm PT
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chiloe is right,time to check your reality
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Nov 19, 2012 - 08:59pm PT
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playing know all CLIMATE SCIENTIST
I guess climate scientists could be the judge of that, eh?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Nov 19, 2012 - 11:52pm PT
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The study...
!!! NO ONE IS GEOENGINEERING !!! THERE ARE NO 'RADICAL GEOENGINEERS' !!!
Got that? What is happening is a whole bunch of people we pay to propose, research, and conduct engineering studies of potential responses are doing just that while others sort out all the policy implications. That's exactly what prudent individuals and governments do when confronted with a problem.
But again, no one is doing any geoengineering.
And how you can just shrug off having posted vortex study photos as having anything whatsoever to do with geoengineering or atmospheric manipulation is beyond me. It's indicative of your entire approach here, post after post of things you either haven't thought through or didn't understand or both.
Yet again, stick with the politics of the issue as the science is so far over your head and lost on you as to be pointless in supporting your commentary and positions. Oh, and drop all the non-existent conspiracy bullsh#t so we can attempt to return to an adult conversation.
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