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Norton
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The Wastelands
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Feb 16, 2018 - 08:50am PT
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^^^^^
sad, believe me
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Feb 16, 2018 - 09:10am PT
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I like that graphic.... about sums it up.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Feb 16, 2018 - 10:49am PT
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Thirteen Russian nationals and three Russian entities were indicted on Friday, “accused of violating U.S. criminal laws in order to interfere with U.S. elections and political processes,” according to the special counsel’s office.
According to ABC, President Donald Trump was briefed about the indictments by FBI Director Christopher Wray and Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/russian-indicted-us-election_us_5a871b70e4b05c2bcaca8989
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Feb 16, 2018 - 10:58am PT
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its seems what unifieds conservatives is a need to hurt others coupled with the dishonesty it takes to not admit it
I think you give them too much credit for being hypocritical.
I think the hardcore Trump supporters have fully embraced the politics of resentment and spite.
There is a football bulletin board that I follow that tends as right-wing as this one tends left. They openly gloat about any policy that makes libtards cry and that hurts democratic supporters. Doesn't make any difference whether it hurts the country or not. In fact, it doesn't seem to make any difference whether they themselves get hurt. I will gladly see my future pension and/or health care get slashed, so that billionaires can have a massive tax cut, as long as libtards are upset about it.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 16, 2018 - 11:46am PT
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Brown Shirts with Red Caps
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Feb 16, 2018 - 11:48am PT
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Admins nuked the two other political threads so this is the last and only one left.
Perhaps a message is being sent.....
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Feb 17, 2018 - 07:28am PT
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This is a must read...
Why a Government Run by Oligarchs Is Very Deadly
By Chris Hedges / Truthdig
https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/donald-trump-tyranny
Oligarchic rule, as Aristotle pointed out, is a deviant form of government. Oligarchs care nothing for competency, intelligence, honesty, rationality, self-sacrifice or the common good. They pervert, deform and dismantle systems of power to serve their immediate interests, squandering the future for short-term personal gain. “The true forms of government, therefore, are those in which the one, or the few, or the many, govern with a view to the common interest; but governments that rule with a view to the private interest, whether of the one, of the few or of the many, are perversions,” Aristotle wrote. The classicist Peter L.P. Simpson calls these perversions the “sophistry of oligarchs,” meaning that once oligarchs take power, rational, prudent and thoughtful responses to social, economic and political problems are ignored to feed insatiable greed. The late stage of every civilization is characterized by the sophistry of oligarchs, who ravage the decaying carcass of the state.
These deviant forms of government are defined by common characteristics, most of which Aristotle understood. Oligarchs use power and ruling structures solely for personal advancement.
Oligarchs, though they speak of deconstructing the administrative state, actually increase deficits and the size and power of law enforcement and the military to protect their global business interests and ensure domestic social control. The parts of the state that serve the common good wither in the name of deregulation and austerity. The parts that promote the oligarchs’ power expand in the name of national security, economic growth and law and order.
read more
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 17, 2018 - 07:56am PT
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Mighty Hiker, I had a similar thought after the last shooting. If our children are not safe in their schools from others allegedly exercising a constitutional right, it seems like they are being denied equal protection under the laws, which is another right under the constitution.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Feb 17, 2018 - 09:10am PT
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It's difficult to determine accurate numbers for NRA political support.
Here are two links from the same sight.
https://www.opensecrets.org/outsidespending/detail.php?cmte=National+Rifle+Assn&cycle=2016
One asserts the NRA contributed $1,085,150 in the 2016 election cycle, with 99% going to Rebublicans.
https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/totals.php?id=d000000082&cycle=2014
The other claims:
Total Independent Expenditures: $52,582,309
For Democrats: $265
Against Democrats: $37,010,516
For Republicans: $17,385,437
Against Republicans: $2,281
I assume the later includes all PAC contributions.
Thank you Citizens United.<sarcasm>
Regardless of the amount, it's clear the organization is pro-Republican and anti-Democrat.
Looking at big tobacco, they had billions to thwart regulations/restrictions. Yet, they've lost ground, repeatedly. So, why can't we do something about gun regulation?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 17, 2018 - 12:43pm PT
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NRA donated 30 million to the trump campaign...You think Trump will support any effort to legislate gun control...? Bought and sold...The 13 indictments disprove the Sleazeball's claim of russian interference being a hoax...What a suprise...Ever notice how whatever sleazeball says turns out to be a lie.. Times running out for sleazeball ..Time to fire Rosenstein and Mueller..
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August West
Trad climber
Where the wind blows strange
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Feb 17, 2018 - 01:16pm PT
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I've long believed the constitutional path is the only way to truly and significantly regulate firearms
Getting a controversial amendment through is extremely difficult. Especially in the case of something like guns where low population states are much more pro-gun but their vote for or against the amendment counts the same as states like CA.
I would say it is far more likely that you could, at some point, have 5 Supreme Court members who rule that the 2 amendment protects "well regulated militias" like state national guards, but that it does not give an individual right to gun ownership.
This would have been far easier prior to the Heller decision in 2008 that ruled 5-4 in favor of an individual right. Since you would now need a court to explicitly overturn that decision. But I still think this is far more likely than an amendment...
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Fat Dad
Trad climber
Los Angeles, CA
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Feb 17, 2018 - 02:09pm PT
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The Court has clearly established the "free speech" can be regulated, so why the notion that the gun ownership cannot? The only place in the Bill of Rights where the word "regulated" is found is in the Second Amendment.
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Pennsylenvy
Gym climber
A dingy corner in your refrigerator
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Feb 17, 2018 - 04:22pm PT
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^^^^^ FAIL
We defend America with INTEGRITY which is why things are going the way they are now. You don't have the capability to connect those dots Jody. Keep on posting if it makes you feel good though.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Feb 17, 2018 - 05:02pm PT
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Arm the students...
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Feb 17, 2018 - 05:17pm PT
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RJ! Re your remark:
Arm the students...
We need to arm the students who are born & raised to threaten others. Arm the sons of cops & military. Arm the football team. And arm the Young Republicans.
Give them brown shirts, arm-bands, batons, & automatic pistols.
What could go Rong?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Feb 17, 2018 - 05:49pm PT
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Arm school personnel...is that so hard to figure out?
Not if you believe in the moronic proposition that more guns are the answer.
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 17, 2018 - 06:07pm PT
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The way to do it, is kill all the st00pid criminals like Rodrigo Duterte does .... :-)
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