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zBrown
Ice climber
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Aug 17, 2015 - 08:07pm PT
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Somebody oughta tell Cleevon. However, there is a valid question here. Why in the fork has this been dragging out for so many years?
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Feb 29, 2016 - 08:35am PT
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With Cliven Bundy & Sons effectively corralled, the BLM is working on the issue of removing his feral cows.
http://www.eenews.net/stories/1060033077
The Bundy herd, last estimated at 1,000, has trampled sensitive soils, devoured native saplings and bedded down against Native American artifacts. One of Bundy's bulls attacked a Nevada wildlife official, while others have run roughshod over a community garden and a golf course, BLM said.
BLM and its allies -- following court orders -- want Bundy's cows gone from the public lands surrounding his Bunkerville, Nev., ranch, and particularly Gold Butte, a 350,000-acre mesa of Joshua trees, cacti and creosote bushes below the snow-dusted Virgin Peak.
But removing Bundy's ornery, battle-tested herd -- estimated by one Nevada official to be worth up to $800,000 -- will be expensive, logistically difficult and potentially dangerous.
"It's like hunting cape buffalo," said Ken Mayer, the former director of Nevada's Department of Wildlife. "They're nasty, they're smart, and they won't hesitate to charge."
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 29, 2016 - 08:38am PT
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One of Bundy's bulls attacked a Nevada wildlife official
LOL like that is Bundy's fault.
Stupid violent Americans will get attacked by any Bull because they kill all cows and eat em .....
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Feb 29, 2016 - 09:16am PT
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"It's like hunting cape buffalo," said Ken Mayer, the former director of Nevada's Department of Wildlife. "They're nasty, they're smart, and they won't hesitate to charge."
lol
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Feb 29, 2016 - 09:51am PT
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Funny how within 30 minutes of Levoy F being shot, there was full video of the incident distributed to media outlets.
And its been over 4 months since Jack Yantis was shot by ID deputies and we still can't even get a sense for when the investigation will conclude.
So, those bulls can be dangerous y'all. Dangerous that a bunch of retards with badges will open up on it with .223 and 9mm.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 29, 2016 - 10:11am PT
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Escopeta you write some really weird sh#t.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Feb 29, 2016 - 10:27am PT
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Maybe we will get body camera footage of the Bundy cattle round up.
Or even a live feed on pay-per-view
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Feb 29, 2016 - 12:21pm PT
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30 minutes is a bit of an exaggeration there Essy. Maybe it was 48 hours?
Are you really surprised that the Finicum suicide was video taped but the Yantis incident was not? There may actually be tape of the Yantis matter, but nobody is saying.
The Yantis case is interesting, from what I have read it was a relatively minor incident that ended with someone dead. Seems that Yantis had a temper and the local cops were major a-holes. Add guns for everyone and bad things start to happen.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Feb 29, 2016 - 12:25pm PT
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Long Live Dave Ward.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Feb 29, 2016 - 02:54pm PT
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"But removing Bundy's ornery, battle-tested herd -- estimated by one Nevada official to be worth up to $800,000 -- will be expensive, logistically difficult and potentially dangerous."
I would think the BLM could make millions by auctioning/selling licenses to hunt these trophy beasts.
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overwatch
climber
Arizona
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Feb 29, 2016 - 03:08pm PT
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The cattle are more squared away than the Bundys
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Feb 29, 2016 - 04:36pm PT
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But removing Bundy's ornery, battle-tested herd
That's what happens when you let them run ferrel for so long. Bundy didn't even take them in over the winter when foraging was toughest.
He couldn't round them up any better then the feds. He had to lure them with food into pens when he wanted to cash in.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Are you really surprised that the Finicum suicide was video taped but the Yantis incident was not? There may actually be tape of the Yantis matter, but nobody is saying.
Well, therein lies the pickle doesn't it. Nobody is saying......
So only wildlife refuge occupiers rate high enough to have their videotaped killing rushed to the media frontlines? But a rancher gunned down on a lonely highway? Meh, it can wait.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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Did Yantis have a previous history of bringing hundreds of gunmen to a standoff against the BLM over a cattle roundup?
Don't think so.
Did Yantis and his armed patriots occupy a federal wildlife refuge for a month before his suicide by cop?
Don't think so.
Was there a month long media circus prior to the shooting?
Don't think so.
I'm not saying it's right to withhold anything in the Yantis case. But given the big picture environment, and the fact that there were many millions more people on BOTH sides paying attention in Oregon, it certainly shouldn't be any mystery to you why the FBI, and the state of Oregon, would rush to protect themselves in the public view.
Edit: You said it was ID Deputies that shot him. Was the FBI even involved in the Yantis case? If not, it's kind of apples to oranges then. A highly publicized federal response compared to a county response. Have you taken this up with the county sheriff in Idaho, or is it just better to moan about it here?
I don't disagree with your assessment of the Yantis affair. I know little about it. What I disagree with is your assessment of the FBI in the Finicum case. ESPECIALLY since it was an OST that shot Finicum, not the FBI.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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So, what you're saying is that I'm right? OK. Nice.
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survival
Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
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No, I'm not.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Well yeah. You kind of are. Not just kind of, you basically restated exactly my point. Its OK, you're safe. I won't tell anyone you agreed with me.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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How you can deduce that is beyond me.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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^^^^ And that should surprise me why?
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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...the fact that there were many millions more people on BOTH sides...
The fact there would be two sides in the whole affair is sad beyond words and just speaks to how far the gop has moved to the fringe right after fifty years of increasingly shrill and extreme rhetoric.
P.S. LF clearly went for a piece and made his own choice. That he did reach for a piece is why the video was released so soon to try and quell the 'assassination' hysteria that was sure to follow. That you would buy into any of it from start to finish speaks volumes.
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