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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jan 14, 2018 - 12:08pm PT
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False alarm in Hawaii revealed an abdication of leadership by Trump
The president should have responded quickly to reassure Americans. He still has not directly addressed what happened Saturday, though the White House put out a statement making clear that the incident was the fault of Hawaii officials.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Jan 14, 2018 - 12:10pm PT
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Mighty Hiker:
There's abundant evidence that Russia put significant effort into trying to influence the 2016 US presidential election ... Let's take a look at some numbers:
1. Putin spent ~$10,000.00 on Facebook ads.
2. Trump spent ~$200,000,000.00 on campaign ads.
3. Hillary spent ~$1,000,000,000.00 on campaign ads.
4. Progressive MSMs published ~$5,000,000,000.00 worth of propaganda materials during last presidential campaign.
At least to me these numbers are not consistent with "Russia put significant effort" claim.
To be effective these $10,000.00 should have been designed by marketing geniuses.
Considering lack of experience and amateurish character of Putin's propaganda (as compared to pro campaigns by Hillary and Trump) such claim of extreme Putin's effectiveness seems a BS to me.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Jan 14, 2018 - 12:23pm PT
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Mighty Hiker:
Has the USA ever influenced or attempted to influence an election in Russia, at least in any way that is proveable? Mighty Hiker, I understand that you may not trust me.
However such information is available on the Internet.
1. Please Google for "Victoria Nuland Ukraine". You will discover how States Department's Victoria Nuland flew to Ukraine to micromanage Ukrainian coup in February 2014. She had daily meetings with the opposition leaders. In one of the conversations she even handpicked members of the future Ukrainian government.
2. Please Google for "USSR US grants". You will discover how US government supported USSR opposition friendly to US interests through Scholarships, Fellowships and Grants to Non Government Organizations (NGO).
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Jan 14, 2018 - 01:32pm PT
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Now JUST a minute! We LOVED Pierre!
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WBraun
climber
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Jan 14, 2018 - 05:30pm PT
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Please Google for "Victoria Nuland Ukraine". You will discover how States Department's Victoria Nuland flew to Ukraine to micromanage Ukrainian coup in February 2014.
McCain was in on this too.
He recruited a whole bunch of neo nazis who proceeded to slaughter unarmed Ukraine civilians during that coup.
McCain and Nuland, American aszhole criminals that clueless st00pid Americans are clueless to ......
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Jan 15, 2018 - 12:28pm PT
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But a lot of the evidence, like Pizza Gate, is laughable and it was laughable when the story broke.
It wasn't laughable when the gunman showed up.
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Splater
climber
Grey Matter
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Jan 16, 2018 - 01:16pm PT
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"Let's take a look at some numbers:
1. Putin spent ~$10,000.00 on Facebook ads.
2. Trump spent ~$200,000,000.00 on campaign ads.
3. Hillary spent ~$1,000,000,000.00 on campaign ads.
4. MSMs published ~$5,000,000,000.00 worth of propaganda materials during last presidential campaign."
Russia also sent propaganda about Dem. party to wikileaks, after attempts to work an angle with trumpeters didn't seem as optimum.
Simultaneously, media became ever more dominated by the continued rise of news sites that either do no fact checking and even publish intentionally false stories and lying twits.
The Facebook ads were not very different than all the breitbart type trolls that took over the minds of many lemmings.
The alt-news was then stoked by massive biased press especially by biased "reporting" by faux news types, biased Congressional hearings, and biased leaks of fakery by James Comey.
And stoked further by free MSM press. Even NPR and PBS gave hourly free press to all this nonsense.
So yes, the MSM repeated all the exaggerated nonsense about Hillary about 5 billion times, some of which came from Russia, while failing to fact check much of the trumptwits, which was enough to sway swing voters in swing states and elect the orange coo-coo.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Jan 16, 2018 - 03:39pm PT
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Trump's cognitive ability is normal, says White House doctor
Great! They now won't be able to claim insanity or dementia at his trial.
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Jan 16, 2018 - 07:17pm PT
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There are posts with images of athletes that are 6'3" and weight 239, and....there is no way on earth that DT weights only 239 if the numbers being posted with those images are accurate.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jan 16, 2018 - 07:30pm PT
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Happi...He might well weigh 239 if you take into consdieration the small hands and the other small member...
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Jan 17, 2018 - 07:36am PT
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The Wall Street Journal asked 68 business, financial and academic economists who was responsible for the strengthening of the economy, and most “suggested Mr. Trump’s election deserves at least some credit” for the upturn.
A majority said the president had been “somewhat” or “strongly” positive for job creation, gross domestic product growth and the rising stock market.
The pros cite the White House’s push for lighter regulation and the recent tax bill as critical to a pro-growth environment; more than 90 percent of the group thought the tax bill would boost GDP expansion over the next two years.
A year ago in the same survey, economists awarded President Obama mixed grades. Most saw his policies as positive for financial stability, but neutral-to-negative for GDP growth and negative for long-term growth. By contrast, Trump was seen as neutral to positive for long-term gains.
http://thehill.com/opinion/finance/368904-economists-agree-trump-not-obama-gets-credit-for-economy
Whaddaya know.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Jan 17, 2018 - 07:38am PT
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The pros cite the White House’s push for lighter regulation and the recent tax bill as critical to a pro-growth environment; more than 90 percent of the group thought the tax bill would boost GDP expansion over the next two years.
Wow! Who would ever have thought that Wall Street would approve of lighter regulation!!
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 26, 2018 - 12:14pm PT
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Aside from issues of Russian interference in social media to manipulate elections... what about basic integrity of vote recording and counting?
The state of security for voting machines is truly appalling:
https://www.yahoo.com/tech/voting-machine-makers-already-worried-190000481.html
This is not hyperbole... the existing machines from many vendors are known to be easily hackable, and existing vendors are actively working against the security industry conferences from repeating public demonstrations of it and bringing more attention to the issue.
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Jan 30, 2018 - 03:00pm PT
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trump is still president. Big issue.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 30, 2018 - 05:17pm PT
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Everyone should watch the video Malemute shared. He didn't get into the SuperPAC and media funding transparency aspects of the problem, but brought great clarity to the issue of equal representation, fixing the command & control structure of government responsive to the will of the people, before other policy issues and strategic plans can be effectively implemented.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 31, 2018 - 10:16am PT
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What’s the matter DMT, southern street cred at risk if you are seen listening to a “known liberal”? If you disagree with what he says, you don’t have to believe it, but you don’t strike me as a person averse to being informed and considering different perspectives. Or is it the idea of jumping on a bandwagon and threatening the rugged individualist identity that is the problem?
I would very much like to hear any objections to the points he makes, to broaden my perspective and help me understand different people. After doing more research on this guy, I have a lot of respect for the real ways he has contributed to our society, starting or fostering institutions that make our world a better place.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 5, 2018 - 12:38pm PT
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Here is a very short, excellent, insightful article about a little-discussed aspect of the high cost of medicine in the USA:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/27/opinion/sunday/surgery-germany-vicodin.html
It boils down to our expectations about pain management. It is also interesting to see how our collective expectations of pain management has contributed to the Opioid Epidemic in USA.
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