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10b4me

Social climber
Jun 29, 2015 - 07:49am PT
http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/246103-cliven-bundy-will-be-held-accountable-interior-secretary-says
10b4me

Social climber
Aug 12, 2015 - 06:17pm PT
http://www.hcn.org/articles/dispatch-from-oath-keepers-security-op-in-montana
dirtbag

climber
Aug 12, 2015 - 06:29pm PT
Idiot keepers.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Aug 12, 2015 - 09:57pm PT
These idiots should be cut from Social Security!
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Aug 12, 2015 - 11:05pm PT
... or cut their GI pensions!
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Aug 12, 2015 - 11:16pm PT
Doesn't the name "WHITE HOPE MINE" tell you everything you need to know???
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Aug 13, 2015 - 06:06am PT
Keep bumping this thread and we'll see how much self control Ron really has.

Those Oath Keepers are a bunch of anti American cowards, Ron. ;)
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Aug 13, 2015 - 07:44am PT
Timeid TopRope wrote:
Pathetic whitey with their pathetic false sense of manufactured outrage.

More than enough manufactured outrage amongst everybody in this day and age.

Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Aug 13, 2015 - 08:00am PT
Here's a report on some Bundy want-to-bes in Montana.

HELENA, Mont. — Federal prosecutors asked a judge on Tuesday to prevent two miners and their armed supporters from blocking access to public land and threatening government officials over a dispute with the U.S. Forest Service in western Montana.

The lawsuit filed in U.S. District Court in Helena also seeks a declaration that miners George Kornec and Phil Nappo illegally opened a road, cut down trees, built a garage and denied the public the right to access the White Hope mine near Lincoln.

Prosecutors and the Forest Service want U.S. District Judge Charles Lovell to declare the miners are acting illegally because they don't have surface land rights to their mining claims. Prosecutors also want an order requiring the miners to pay to fix the damage to public land and for the miners and their armed supporters to stop interfering with public access.

The road leading to the mining claim belongs to the Forest Service and is open to the public for non-motorized use, the lawsuit said. Members of the public may not interfere with mining operations, but they may access the land and the road, it said.

"Currently the gate is closed with no trespassing signs posted and the public and Forest Service are being refused entry by armed persons," the lawsuit said.

The legal action has the potential to escalate what has been a peaceful, if uneasy, standoff between government officials and more than 20 armed members of constitutionalist groups who showed up in Lincoln, Montana, last week. The members of the Oath Keepers, 3% of Idaho and the Pacific Patriot Network said the miners had requested their presence as a buffer against the Forest Service.

Read more here: http://www.idahostatesman.com/2015/08/11/3934174/us-government-seeks-ruling-against.html?sp=/99/101/531/#storylink=cpy
dirtbag

climber
Aug 13, 2015 - 08:37am PT
Thugs.
Todd Eastman

climber
Bellingham, WA
Aug 13, 2015 - 08:40am PT
This is what happens when the illiterate try to read the Constitution and Federal Code...

... the illustrated versions seems to leave out the details.
jonnyrig

climber
Aug 13, 2015 - 08:40am PT
So... a group that demands transparency and conformity to constitutional rights evidently operates in secrecy and prohibits public access to public lands. Way to defend the constitution dudes.
dirtbag

climber
Aug 13, 2015 - 08:48am PT
Todd nails it. These guys know nothing about the constitution or how our laws operate.

They claim to be law enforcement: I wonder how many of them have records or a demeanor like the cop in the"cops or thug?" thread?

No, they're just another angry mob, ignorantly operating under the cloak of law and order, but doing everything in their power to undermine it.

It's all fun and games until shots start flying.
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Aug 13, 2015 - 11:24am PT
This is an old American tradition in the South and the West going back to the 1600's. They used to be called Regulators and normally existed where the law didn't. Whatever else, it's an interesting phenomenon. Maybe if our government wasn't so busy trying to regulate the Middle East and many other places in the world, they'd have time and budget to control their own U.S. government land within the U.S. ?
10b4me

Social climber
Aug 13, 2015 - 12:27pm PT
Maybe if our government wasn't so busy trying to regulate the Middle East and many other places in the world, they'd have time and budget to control their own U.S. government land within the U.S.

agreed, but since the land belongs to all Americans, and not those that think it's theirs, it's time the gubmint quits pussyfootin' around.
jonnyrig

climber
Aug 13, 2015 - 04:06pm PT
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cuvvy

Sport climber
arkansas
Aug 17, 2015 - 01:55pm PT
The are the kinds of things that occur when uneducated children turn into uneducated adults.
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
Aug 17, 2015 - 03:27pm PT
So what's the latest with old Jivin' Bundy?
zBrown

Ice climber
Aug 17, 2015 - 06:58pm PT
in the 20 years Bundy hasn’t been paying his fees, why hasn’t he been taken to court?

“Is it possible that this guy (Cliven Bundy) has prescriptive rights?” The response from top officials at the BLM, “We are worried that he might and he might use that defense.”

In 1998 a federal judge issued a permanent injunction against Bundy, ordering him to remove his cattle from the federal lands. He lost an appeal to the San Francisco 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. Yet, the “trespass cattle” remained on the BLM land. In fact, it took until August of 2013 for a court order to be issued saying Bundy had 45 days to remove his cattle from federal land. 15 years went by from the time of the last court case over the cattle until the BLM attempted to remove the livestock.



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Leon pleaded guilty in May to selling jerseys bearing counterfeit trademarks over the Internet. Authorities say he imported the fakes from China and attached counterfeit World Cup team patches and stencils with player's names in his garage.




Thailand's defence minister has said those who planted a bomb at a Bangkok shrine deliberately targeted foreigners to harm tourism and the economy.
Gary

Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
Aug 17, 2015 - 07:31pm PT
There are no prescriptive rights, no adverse possession against the government.
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