1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite

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Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2008 - 09:56pm PT
Anything that is easy to see rather than have to use our bifocals
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jul 23, 2008 - 10:00pm PT
Full size:

Risk

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Jul 23, 2008 - 11:09pm PT
My version says there were 34 $50 bills in the wallet. At least that's what some dude at some lake said when he showed them to me. Man, was he trippin; headed to the valley with his lode.

That was the week of April 4 1977, probably the 5th or 6th. Bumped into Roger Banister (RIP) on the trail that day, as well as others left unnamed. Camped downstream with a party of gold diggers with a warm fire.
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 24, 2008 - 12:04am PT
I think your take on Jack sounds about right. He once marched AGAINST the war protesters back in New York
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 24, 2008 - 12:10am PT
It was Reno
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 24, 2008 - 02:11am PT
Learn to read the eyes
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Jul 24, 2008 - 12:20pm PT
Lois weren't you previously asked to stay clear of this thread?
This event was an iconic moment in US climbing history and you have no idea what you are talking about. Stick to the political threads where no one cares how much drift you create.
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Jul 24, 2008 - 12:51pm PT
Woo Hoo post # 420. Smokin'!
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Jul 24, 2008 - 01:09pm PT
Sorry LEB it wasn't this thread it was the South Face of Half dome thread.

Still, thread drift is a terrible thing. Please avoid it if you can.

The US legal system may have a statute of limitations but the drug cartels do not. They have a looooong memory. Many people have a fair reason to be nervous.

Licky, the black book was destroyed right?
philo

Trad climber
boulder, co.
Jul 24, 2008 - 02:23pm PT
Really Lois don't you have some naked gardening to do?
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2008 - 03:22pm PT
Ok...time for some facts.

First off Lois, you are the one that is speculating. If you read this thread from the get go you will learn the answers to many of your questions. I have posted in the past.

Jon Glisky and Jeff Nelson knew exactly what they were hauling. They had been doing this for five years. The plane was one of five that Glisky had owned. Not one at a time, but at the same time. At one point in their past they had attempted to set their own record at 14 trips in 14 days just to see if they could do it.

As for letting the dead lay. It was Jon's wife Pam that first approached me to start a book about their drug running days. It was no secret, but the rumors (as you have speculated) turned into facts after they had been told enough times, and they in turn turned into history. Most either totally bogus or modified into something unbelievable. Such as "...maybe they didn't know what the cargo was." Maybe is the operative word.

I can appreciate everyone sitting around spinning yarns about what might have gone on. The story really does have some great twists and turns that can stand by themselves without embellishing.

Lois, email works pretty well...js
Caveman

climber
Cumberland Plateau
Jul 29, 2008 - 03:58pm PT
"I just wish they did not have to die so young over something as worthless as drugs."



My guess is that they died due to a problem with airframe/flight and it had nothing to do with what they were carrying. Just more speculation.

Didn't know what they had in the hold? Yeah.....sure. caveman
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jul 29, 2008 - 04:12pm PT
LEB,

Please quit babbling.





You are making us wonder which drug you are on.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jul 29, 2008 - 05:13pm PT
TGT wrote:

LEB,

Please quit babbling.



Seconded (with extreme prejudice).


For God's sake Lois, please read this thread from the start, and you'll see how out of place
and absurd your ramblings are...

LEBization™, indeed!
Jim Wilcox

Boulder climber
Santa Barbara
Jul 29, 2008 - 05:14pm PT
I'd rather die in plane wreck hauling pot then on the 405 going to work. Now, that would truly be sensless
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Jul 29, 2008 - 05:23pm PT
" LEB-ization of this thread is really thoughtless "

LEB-ization is never thoughtless, it is a tangent and often hard to 'get' at first. Try to keep up, it's worth it.
Caveman

climber
Cumberland Plateau
Jul 29, 2008 - 05:28pm PT
And there was thunder......thunder......over thunder road. Thunder was their engines and ganja was their load.


Public service if you ask me.

Maybe the Sierra is different but you drop a load in the woods here'bouts then the locals own it...maybe you too. They won't consider it stealing.
Karl Baba

Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
Jul 29, 2008 - 05:52pm PT
Coz wrote
"I am so over the plane karl, isn't there anything else to talk about. Guys stealing dope from dope dealers, wow... Who f ing cares.

I think if I where you I'd write something else, before you get yourself or anyone else in trouble."

Is there some "karl" that's planning on writing something? The OP's name was rick.

Peace

Karl
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 29, 2008 - 06:06pm PT
Lois posted: "As for the widow (or rather one of the widows), it has come to my attention that you are now married to her and she is having a good life with you. That is a very good thing and I am glad that the story appears to be having a happy ending. I will be reading your book once it comes out so hurry up and publish it."

First,I hate to put water on your continued speculation, but we are not married. Never have been, probably never will be.

Second, there have not been any comments about widow(s), so again, it is a reach to assume there is a second widow rather than to simply ask.
Jaybro

Social climber
wuz real!
Jul 29, 2008 - 08:14pm PT
"we are not married. Never have been, probably never will be."


Now, how evocative is that?
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