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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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by their new "vote harvesting" scam in California--a practice illegal in 49 other states.
And what has Fox told you that this consists of?
I'm also an election official in LA county, and would love to hear your interpretation of what we do?
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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Just say headlines from a Rueters news story that Putin has said Russia will supply China with Soy Beans and poultry meat; that the U.S. has given up on the market.
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Winemaker
Sport climber
Yakima, WA
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Well HermitMaster, since all that stuff, heaven and hell and etc, is imaginary, who cares?
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HermitMaster
Social climber
my abode
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Well HermitMaster, since all that stuff, heaven and hell and etc, is imaginary, who cares?
So is global warming
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Happiegrrrl2
Trad climber
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But Limbo just has a bar that, if you can get low enough to pass under, you're in!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Setting aside the debate of whether or not a wall is the best (or even feasible) way to control immigration, the politics here are just plain juvenile.
Trump is in a box of his own making on this- he used an unachievable, over-simplified sound bite as the center of his campaign, and now he has to try to deliver on it. Democrats know this, and as long as they play the political game reasonably carefully, public opinion will place the primary responsibility for driving the gov't off the cliff entirely on Trump & the GOP.
A savvy politician (obviously not Trump) would have used more careful words that would give him more leeway, and wouldn't have said stooooopid sh#t like 'I'll be proud to shut down the gov't'. His base may get all weak in the knees when they hear this, but they (by themselves) won't get him re-elected.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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So now the mid term election was simply "predictable", a weak effort to deflect from the beating
you would have to go back 25 years just to beat the whopping 40 House seats won by the Dems
in addition to seven state governorships and 350 state legislative seats switched from Republican to Democrat
the American people came out and voted in a midterm with numbers rivaling a Presidential
in fact the most votes cast in a midterm in US history
and it was out of complete revulsion, disgust, and contempt for the complete incompetence,
the daily embarrassments, the shocking rise in the national debt and loss of US Foreign policy credibility
all while Republicans controlled the Presidency, House, and Senate
ignorant, old and white men - the fast shrinking Republican base voter
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john hansen
climber
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I hope during Trumps State of the Union address they take photos of each side of the isle and post them side by side.
On the right a bunch of old white guys.
On the left people who reflect the diversity of America.
In 2020 there are many more republican seats up in the Senate then there were in 2018. It is like 25 rep and 12 dem.
And if you believe that "most" of the workers losing pay think it is worth it for the wall, you are delusional.
And thus not qualified to be president.
The twisted thing about Trump is that he is the guy caught behind the curtain but he just keeps denying and embellishing
everything like an old time snake oil salesmen ,trying not to get run out of town when everyone realizes he is a fraud.
I don't think he can win this shut down fight.
How many lies will Trump put forth as facts in his State of the Union address? Jan 29th.. he can't help himself.
I wonder who is working on that important speech?
Bueller?
More likely ,,Steven Miller, an angry man.. Trump will probably go off script and rant and rave like Hitler for an hour.
Of course he will have no plan for moving any thing forward on any form of legislation or any vision for the United States to achieve new goals or to make the world a better place.
He will be cowering in his hole watching Ann Coulter and worrying about Mueller and the Southern District of New York and wondering if Jared and Jr will eventually pay the price for the sins of their father's.
Trump has no empathy or compassion
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Lituya: Per the intelligent part of your reply:
Truth is, a wall wouldn't be necessary if businesses followed the law and hired only citizens, legal residents, or program workers.
So?? You have to support Trump's wall, just like gud Republicans had to show enthusiasm for Trump's tax cut for the wealthy & corporations?
Maybe, there's room for you in Trump's cadre of sycopants. Keep spewing bile & you will be recognized, if not rewarded.
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Kalimon
Social climber
Ridgway, CO
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Truth is, a wall would not be necessary if our president followed the law . . . oh the humanity: drugs, terrorists and human traffickers! It's a f*#king sh#t show down in El Paso.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Interesting links, Splater. One of them lead me to this:
https://www.cato.org/blog/serious-problems-e-verify?fbclid=IwAR0yMgC-1KmIdb_2LrjPSJl4qTx7aijvWkRGnedshvTaQ2-9mhbHBI-bTeY
Even the most ardent foe of illegal immigration would have concerns about some of the issues around E-Verify.
Like for starters: because the system could be easily gamed by both employers & employees, the federal gov't would likely ratchet up the application process, including fingerprinting and other personal data sources. This would apply to all employees, including the majority of employees who are born & bred Americans. Does a typical conservative illegal immigration foe really want the Federal gov't gathering that kind of data? Imagine how useful it would be for gun regulation....
This is a federal gov't problem that shouldn't be solved primarily by employers. No doubt that the great majority of conservative employers would strongly reject the concept of increasing regulations on employers as a primary means to enforce a Federal regulation & law.
Of course, the fantastic irony is that the great majority of rural agricultural employers who strongly supported Trump are advocating immigration reform could easily result in regulations they are required to enforce themselves.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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I'm also an election official in LA county, and would love to hear your interpretation of what we do?
It's not what you do, per se, rather the national fraud that California is conducting under AB 1921. It should not be legal to selectively "harvest" ballots en masse anywhere. In fact, it's not legal in any other state. Democrats are complaining, rightly, about one House district in NC that pulled this sh#t. Even refusing to seat the Republican who was declared winner. So, a scheme that readily lends itself to meddling is not legal in any other state in our republic--why is it legal in California?
BTW, Ken M, if a partisan like you is an "election official" anywhere, that's a big problem.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Of course, the fantastic irony is that the great majority of rural agricultural employers who strongly supported Trump are advocating immigration reform could easily result in regulations they are required to enforce themselves.
It's always amusing to hear liberals express "concern" about putting extra burdens on business. :rolleyes:
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WBraun
climber
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That poodle looks just like most of these st00pid clueless brainwashed politards ......
Control the press feed them what you want them to know and then you control the people ......
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the difficulty of using e-verify.
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