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L
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Tiptoeing through the chilly waters of life
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Sep 20, 2017 - 01:16pm PT
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L is for loose with 'em
Back it up babe
Hahaha Kevin! You believe everything you read???
I'm just quoting my friend, who's daughter is actually in the military. After watching House of Cards recently, I just can't put too much validity in newspapers these days.
Of course, that wasn't my point, and you know it. F said women weren't being drafted and he was incorrect. So nah-nah-nah!
Speaking of knowing, I wish I knew you as a person, like I know several of my climbing buddies. Then I'd probably recognize when you're joking, trolling, stirring the pot or actually being real. But it's the Internet, and you like to play poker, so there it is.
However...
The idea of some climber dude sitting in an outhouse for hours on end, strumming his guitar to the owls and the bears and the nighttime sky, for no other reason than the joy it brought to his being...well...that strikes a chord deep inside.
Perhaps you're not such a bad guy after all. ;-)
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Sep 20, 2017 - 01:17pm PT
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L-thinks she has the smoking gun with the Israelis then uses mockery to combat Kevin's defense of his own viewpoints.
Let me guess L, I think the apple represents "sugar and spice and everything nice" but I'm having trouble with the hairy creature. Is that us? Good God why didn't you say so?
Kevin pinks back with another tuohé and on and on we go.
But, L is hella clever with her wordplay, so, gets style points for entertainment value!
... keeps the merry-go-round spinning, that's for sure.
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L
climber
Tiptoeing through the chilly waters of life
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Sep 20, 2017 - 01:20pm PT
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L-thinks she has the smoking gun with the Israelis then uses mockery to combat Kevin's defense of his own viewpoints.
Let me guess L, I think the apple represents "sugar and spice and everything nice" but I'm having trouble with the hairy creature. Is that us? Good God why didn't you say so?
Boy, did you feel the wooooosh as that went over your head, Arne?
Do you have any hair left?
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Sep 20, 2017 - 01:48pm PT
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There are an increasing number of women that are tougher than the average man. As far as climbing as a sport goes, I would not be surprised women may be establishing the sport route grade breakthroughs and edging out the men within a half a decade.
Without testosterone supplements, 3 out of my six daughters are the main bread winners in their households. The other 3 are young(18,19 and 21) and we will see what they do.
My daughter Rose(26) nailed off a 2800 square foot 6/12 pitch roof when she was 14. She carried and swung half the sheets of ply up when we were sheeting it.
She is a CNA pursuing nursing, has 2 children. The subs noticed how hard a worker she is and still ask me how is she doing. A couple Saturdays ago she helped me do some landscaping at my house during a heat wave, it was like old times.
Don't be intimidated men, don't get left in the dust, just woman up. :)
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WBraun
climber
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Sep 20, 2017 - 01:57pm PT
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Almost think it had hot water
No hot water, only hot-headed macho sexist and non-Politically Correct snowflake climbers like us :-)
Muuwahahahhaa .......
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Sep 20, 2017 - 02:01pm PT
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L- I was specifically referencing the Selective Service in 'Murica, supposedly the most progressive nation in the universe. Not apples, or Israel, or red assed baboons.
Thanks for the emotionally charged response.
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L
climber
Tiptoeing through the chilly waters of life
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Sep 20, 2017 - 02:04pm PT
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eKat
climber
Sep 20, 2017 - 02:31am PT
Say what, sista?
YOU GOT MARRIED?
Tell all!
:-)
Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
Sep 20, 2017 - 04:54am PT
^^^
Yes, inquiring minds here ... and as your friends and confidants, L, we are on a need to know basis!
Kath and Roy--
I don't want to bore folks or derail The Warbler's fine thread, so I'll post up in the Who Are You People Anyway thread.
Thanks for asking. It's good to see you two are still kickin' it!
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c wilmot
climber
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Sep 20, 2017 - 02:16pm PT
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
Sep 20, 2017 - 01:48pm PT
There are an increasing number of women that are tougher than the average man.
While not a bad thing per se- how is this different than males who pursue the same ego driven mindset of being "tough"?
Part of the feminist message is that men are also victims of the patriarchal mindset that they need to be "tough" individuals- is it not?
I would question your motives for being "tough" if they have to do with an attitude of proving yourself to men.
That kind of thinking is a slippery slope to injury or worse.
Something many males realize in the pursuit of being "tough"
Myself included.
Cheers
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L
climber
Tiptoeing through the chilly waters of life
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Sep 20, 2017 - 02:16pm PT
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Thanks for the emotionally charged response.
F--It was not meant to be emotionally charged, but more tongue-in-cheek. I mean, c'mon, look at that cute orangutan, would ya? He made me laugh...I was hoping you'd chuckle, too.
And I didn't realize you were being specific to America, as I think "feminism" is a worldwide issue, particularly if you're speaking of the military.
I also think that just saying the word "feminism" influences peoples perceptions in a way that isn't necessarily the reality of the situation.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Sep 20, 2017 - 02:17pm PT
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How do you figure that when they're almost twenty years behind in cutting edge sport today?
The rate at which women are diminishing that distance.
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L
climber
Tiptoeing through the chilly waters of life
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Sep 20, 2017 - 02:35pm PT
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It makes sense to me and fits nicely into my sexist worldview, if you so want to shake me out of that
Back it up babe
Btw It wasn't an outhouse
Concrete floor, about 12x15', 3 stalls, several windows, electricity, a big sink, big radiator heater, and as clean as can be. Smelled like Lysol with a capital L
Literally nobody but me and a few buddies used it tor months in the wintertime, and the NPS cleaned it weekly.
Sorry Kevin, I've no intention of trying to change your sexist worldview. It's your worldview, after all, and you get to live with it regardless of how miserable or happy it makes you.
But I will clarify that I wasn't thinking "stinky outhouse" when I mentioned your nocturnal guitar playing. Interesting that you would jump to that conclusion and a need to defend yourself...but that's what a sexist worldview might get you, eh?
Nope, I was just remarking on the poignancy of the scene...the guitar playing for the sheer joy of it...alone at night in that amazing Valley.
Never mind. It's not worth explaining.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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Sep 20, 2017 - 02:45pm PT
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So are you saying the point of having women in sports and the workforce is to attract more men to sports and the workforce?
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ionlyski
Trad climber
Polebridge, Montana
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Sep 20, 2017 - 03:03pm PT
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//Boy, did you feel the wooooosh as that went over your head, Arne?
Do you have any hair left?//
No actually I don't. Male baldness syndrome hit me many years ago and kinda scarred me a bit when competing with all the hunks for the pretty girl at the party. I know that's sexist but that's the way my biology and ego worked.
But I think you and Kevin should go out climbing together. This is a terrible way to hash it out and understand each other's perspectives.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Sep 20, 2017 - 03:10pm PT
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This is a terrible way to hash it out and understand each other's perspectives. Nah,
Brinksmanship for its own sake at this point: and popcorn worthy!
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L
climber
Tiptoeing through the chilly waters of life
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Sep 20, 2017 - 03:24pm PT
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No actually I don't. Male baldness syndrome hit me many years ago and kinda scarred me a bit when competing with all the hunks for the pretty girl at the party. I know that's sexist but that's the way my biology and ego worked.
Arne Duuuuude--are you kiddin' me?????
Then your ego did you a great disservice.
The SEXIEST men at the parties now are all bald, or if not, then they're shaving their heads so they can pretend to be bald. Word!
Not just parties either...heck, they're all over the place. It started with Yul Brynner and it's only been getting better. I just did a 4 day conference where the presenter was bald. I could barely think straight.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Sep 20, 2017 - 03:32pm PT
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She's toast, Kevin.
You got too close to the inner sanctum.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Sep 20, 2017 - 03:43pm PT
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And then I tried to keep her here with that deep level ecofeminist change agent stuff ...
Which, frankly, is just too conversational for most.
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rbord
Boulder climber
atlanta
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Sep 20, 2017 - 03:46pm PT
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I like to read Breitbart for other wrong opinions :-)
I recently read a poster who said that Climate change scientists had just admitted that they were wrong about the catastrophic effects of global warming. No source or anything - I think they made it up.
But like the scientists went into the future and saw what happened in the future and realized that their predictions about what was going to happen in the future were wrong. I liked that! They didn't believe the scientists when they originally made their prediction, but the poster did believe them when they changed the prediction to match the poster's personally biased belief.
Sure, women will never climb as hard as men. I just know stuff too. How marvelous. I must be a boy.
There's a genetic/physical component to it, and there's an environmental/social/learned component to it. If you think you've got that stuff all figured out, and a woman's place really is in the kitchen, or whatever, ok, good for you.
For you. Maybe blacks really are 13 times worse than whites at creating wealth, because that doesn't seem to be changing any time soon either.
Humans believe stuff for the reasons that humans believe stuff. OK ...
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L
climber
Tiptoeing through the chilly waters of life
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Sep 20, 2017 - 03:47pm PT
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I am commanding all of you on this thread to click this link and drop some coin in the bucket. Please!
So of course I'm gonna do what you ask, DMT, cause you asked so nicely...and then I got this response....from a Marine...
To whom it may concern I wish I could shake your hand, and give you a hug to show the proper appreciation.
And now I've got a lump in my throat and blurry vision.
Thank you, buddy.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Sep 20, 2017 - 04:40pm PT
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Well, ah, we all know who here is going to play Harry Callahan.
(hint: plays a mean blues guitar)
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But, Ms. Gray?
(hint: Nah000)
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And, Officer Moore?
(hint: CAT)
VVV
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Ms. Gray:
And I'd like to tell you, inspector, it is the mayor's intention that this department be brought more into line with the … mainstream of 20th century thought.
Harry Callahan:
Just how did the figure to do that … Missus Gray?
Ms. Gray:
Well, for … for one thing his honor intends to, ah, broaden the areas of participation for Women in the police force.
Harry Callahan:
Well that sounds very stylish.
Ms. Gray, removing her glasses in a display of authoritarian sternness:
I think he also said something about, ah, winnowing the Neanderthals out of the department.
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