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Coach37
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Philly
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Aug 16, 2016 - 08:45am PT
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"believe government should provide for the general welfare of the people"
Let me help you make that accurate:
"libertarians and conservatives believe government should provide for the general welfare of the people WHO LOOK LIKE THEM"
Pryo, let he help you understand something. Like a trainwreck, people cannot look away from Trump, myself included. I will vote for Hillary, and would vote for the democrat regardless whether it was her or Bernie or anyone else. But I don't follow her social media, because I made my choice long ago, like 15 years ago during the Cheney presidency. I enjoy watching Trump, because he is an absurd buffoon, and is doing a great job at sticking a fork in the GOP and handing the White House and Senate to the democrats. So I love Trump, the only candidate on the right who could have possibly swung the Senate to the Dems. Good job Donnie Deadbeat, keep it up please!
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Curt
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Gold Canyon, AZ
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Aug 16, 2016 - 10:06am PT
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pyro's posts are interesting. I suspect many people "like" Trump in the same way they like NASCAR--for the crashes.
Curt
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slabbo
Trad climber
colo south
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Aug 17, 2016 - 02:15pm PT
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Was the glue dry yet ??
Pretty slim chances that The Donald gets the electoral votes...nothing else really means much.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 18, 2016 - 04:56pm PT
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"Now the State Department admits it was a payment for ransom."
Link, Cragman?
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Norton
Social climber
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Aug 18, 2016 - 05:10pm PT
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ok, let me try to see if I can explain this real simple like
For over 20 years the United States has had billions of dollars of IRAN'S MONEY in OUR banks
and we have refused to give it back to them until they agree to our SANCTIONS
a "sanction" is a punishment, ok?
now some really dumb Americans got captured and were being held in Iran
and now finally, after years of Iran kissing our ass and complying with our punishments
because they wanted their billions back
we agree to give them SOME of it back, only 400 million because they complied
but to sweeten the pot our President also demanded that they give our Americans back
this called a win win, and because the US does not have traditional banking ties with Iran we could not do like a Paypal transfer, and so had to give them real money
now there really are some people who will try real hard to twist this win win thing into some kind of "statement" or "conspiracy theory" and these are the really dumb people
which one are you?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Aug 18, 2016 - 05:10pm PT
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re: "payment for ransom"
That's just silly, Cragman.
Like human footprints in dinosaur fossil.
But why argue with the hannitys of the world.
Waste of time.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Aug 18, 2016 - 05:27pm PT
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So, when you take your car in for repairs, but you have to pay the bill before getting the car back, you consider that you have been the victim of ransom?
The smartly took advantage of an ongoing process, to leverage the return of captured American.
I know, I know, you prefer the Trump approach---bombing them to hell.
Or I guess returning the money, WITHOUT getting the Americans.
We can look forward to such great diplomatic decisions!
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 18, 2016 - 05:39pm PT
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"Now the State Department admits it was a payment for ransom."
Link, Cragman?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
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Aug 18, 2016 - 05:54pm PT
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Good lord,
how would you all like to be in Ryan Lochte's speedo today?
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Lorenzo
Trad climber
Portland Oregon
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Aug 18, 2016 - 05:59pm PT
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Some reality would be whether or not the state department admitted to paying ransome...
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Fritz
Social climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Aug 18, 2016 - 05:59pm PT
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Cragman? Are you just trying to be on the anti-Democrat bandwagon, or do you have reading & comprehension problems?
I think Norton explains this payment quite well, and I also already knew the facts of the matter too.
Aug 18, 2016 - 05:10pm PT
ok, let me try to see if I can explain this real simple like
For over 20 years the United States has had billions of dollars of IRAN'S MONEY in OUR banks
and we have refused to give it back to them until they agree to our SANCTIONS
a "sanction" is a punishment, ok?
now some really dumb Americans got captured and were being held in Iran
and now finally, after years of Iran kissing our ass and complying with our punishments
because they wanted their billions back
we agree to give them SOME of it back, only 400 million because they complied
but to sweeten the pot our President also demanded that they give our Americans back
this called a win win, and because the US does not have traditional banking ties with Iran we could not do like a Paypal transfer, and so had to give them real money
now there really are some people who will try real hard to twist this win win thing into some kind of "statement" or "conspiracy theory" and these are the really dumb people
which one are you?
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 18, 2016 - 06:02pm PT
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Soooooo.......
No link, Cragman?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Aug 19, 2016 - 07:18am PT
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Of course it's quiet. Obama is on vacation.
Historic floods, uncontrollable wildfires, neighborhoods torched by rioters... and where's our President?
Oh.... he's playing golf.
Golf is what matters.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 19, 2016 - 07:20am PT
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He could stop all of those things, too, if he would just show up.
Hell, all of those things are his fault, anyway...
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pyro
Big Wall climber
Calabasas
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Aug 19, 2016 - 07:30am PT
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gives all kinds of money to iran but where is he when he is needed in louisiana with all the flooding they are having he is a disgrace to this country instead of doing his job he is again on vacation and golfing.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Aug 19, 2016 - 07:32am PT
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You are hopeless, pyro.
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