Armed Militia Takes Over Malheur National Wildlife Refuge HQ

Wait, Ya'll Queda only get 12 virgins? They sure f*#ked up in picking their religion.

Wait, Ya'll Queda only get 12 virgins? They sure f*#ked up in picking their religion.

^ or a tribe taking back their hunting lands, instead of living on the crappy land they were forced to live on (the Rez)?

the Feds are officially pussies.

That's all they could find among 72 cousins.

The population in the USA is rapidly urbanizing as money and jobs leave the farm. Blue collar jobs have also nearly vanished from the economy. There are still a lot of high paying jobs but they are in places like Palo Alto and require specialized and advanced university degrees. These are jobs that often cannot be filled due to a lack of qualified people. I know of a company that pays summer student interns $2000 a week with lodging, meals and transportation but has trouble finding qualified people. The rural middle class feels disenfranchised and is pissed off. Rather than moving to the city and getting an education relevant to the current economy, some of them are taking up guns and what amounts to terrorism.

Holy Crap, Some of you retards are worse than the Bundys. That statement is as bad as Bundy fighting the government using his SBA funding.

Good grief.

No, your point was already made several times by myself and others. Still, you have to be really committed to not seeing the problem if you can't see the differences in the way that both the media and the government handles a bunch of armed white guys taking a government building (and making statements how they are willing to die for their cause, even leaving "goodbye" videos to that end) by force and a bunch of mostly black people holding unarmed protests. Likewise, the grievances of people who think the government is oppressing them because of their sense of entitlement versus actual, documented oppression. It's absurd.

So here is what I currently think about this issue. Of course what I think might change as more information comes in. Being willing to change your mind is important in objective analysis and I try to be objective but it is difficult for humans to be objective. I do understand that the truth is extremely complex and hard to know. I also know that pretty much nobody here is really interested my opinion but I feel like spouting off too. I really don’t care if you agree or disagree but if you have reliable information (data) that I haven’t considered, I would like to see it.

The problem with the "unarmed protests" is that the "protesters" were actively harming their community and weren't exactly nonviolent. If the Branch Stupidians/ Infanttada participants (thank you, El Cap) were in an urban area, looting, destroying vehicles and buildings and threatening the safety and livelihoods of ordinary citizens, you bet the response would be different. The difference has much more to do with location than race.

I still like Gary's suggestion the best. If we leave them alone and the press ignores them, we have an effectively self-supporting federal detention center. We can always keep them under drone surveilance, and arrest each as he or she leaves. It's so close to a free lunch it scares me.

I don't think you understood his point.

These jobs don't require a college degree, but they require specialized training or skills and what we used to call high school graduate-level literacy. They also require the sorts of work habits that most working particpants on this forum take for granted, such as showing up on time and dependably, and doing your job.