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monolith
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state of being
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Sep 30, 2015 - 08:57pm PT
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No, Chief. You were thinking all low income women were elegible for ACA.
Not true. You do understand that now, right Chief?
If there are some providers on the eastside that take medicaid and can perform all the services, that's great.
It's not true everywhere particularly in red states. That's where PP is essential.
Good night, Chief. Try to keep your frothing to a minimum.
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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Sep 30, 2015 - 09:00pm PT
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No, Chief. You were thinking all low income women were elegible for ACA.
Once again MONO, RTFP... Focus Focus Focus.
ok...
Can anyone of you loons answer this.
Why is Planned Parenthood (Federally Funded) needed when Obamacare (ACA) pays for 100% of all the same exact stuff that a Woman of low income that is eligible for such, requires. Including abortions. And she can do so with the physician of her choice. Where as in PP, that is NOT an option.
Once again Mono, thanks for the predictable laugh you are ALWAYS certainly good for, each and every time.
Back to you Brown... Obamacare provides the same exact services as does PP.
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-womens-health-services/
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And this one is just for you, MONO! PP is in the 10% group.
It's not true everywhere particularly in red states. That's where PP is essential.
Hmmm, the statistic sing a far different tune. And, most of the "Red States" you eluded to, will, they pulled the plug on PP funding and they are doing just fine without it.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Sep 30, 2015 - 09:35pm PT
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"Both produce dead meat."
Wow....not only ironic, but darkly cynical, too!
What a happy life you live, TGT.
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Sep 30, 2015 - 11:13pm PT
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If the feds were subsidizing a profitable company that made bullets instead of baby parts the progs would all be up in arms.
Why do you have to lie to make your points? Are your arguments so weak??
Feds do NOT "subsidize" PP, they CONTRACT with them, to provide a service.
Is your model that the gov't should not "subsidize" teachers beyond food clothing and shelter? It would be unconscionable to pay them any sort of "profit"?
The same for soldiers?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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BTW: "Obama" has options on his desk not only to nuke and/or bunker bomb Iran, but also to "carpet bomb" Syria. He's still reviewing the effectiveness of Nixon's ploy in Southeast Asia though. Probably right though, Obama is no JFK. You do remember the Cuban missile crisis, right?
Remember when the United States and the President were once considered the World's policeman? Yesterday, Russia's unilateral bombing in Syria provided a reminder of our current clout. We're the World's high school guidance counselor.
Allegedly overheard at the Pentagon:
"Right now, we are Putin's prison bitch."
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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If the feds were subsidizing a profitable company that made bullets
What do you mean "if"?
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Apologies if this has been already discussed.
Why doesn't Planned Parenthood set up separate for-profit abortion centers? They could put an end to this ongoing headache. Considering how many people are strongly pro-choice, it shouldn't be too difficult for PP to raise money from private sources... if needed. I tend to think that wouldn't be necessary. PP abortion centers should be able to take care of all patients, while making a decent profit.
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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Sep 30, 2015 - 11:13pm PT
If the feds were subsidizing a profitable company that made bullets instead of baby parts the progs would all be up in arms.
Why do you have to lie to make your points? Are your arguments so weak??
Feds do NOT "subsidize" PP, they CONTRACT with them, to provide a service.
Gee KenM, isn't any clearer than this...
Organizations like Planned Parenthood often use Title X grants to subsidize birth control, STD screenings, and other reproductive health services for low-income patients who may lack health insurance coverage.
Planned Parenthood receives Title X funds both directly from the federal government and from states, which will sometimes make the nonprofit's health center a subgrantee for the dollars they receive from the federal government. http://www.vox.com/2015/7/22/9013565/planned-parenthood-government-funding
To add to the discussion of whether Planned Parenthood should continue to be funded, let’s consider five truths about an industry that receives more than $360 million in taxpayer subsidies annually. http://www.nationalreview.com/article/265590/five-truths-about-planned-parenthood-charmaine-yoest
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dirtbag
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Some of you vastly overestimate Putin.
Largely, he is wagging the dog. Dog waggers are not strong.
Many of you bashing Obama over Putin voted for this guy twice:
I looked the man in the eye. I found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy.
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The Chief
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Down the hill & across the Valley from......
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Ken is right for the most part.
Ahhhhhhh..... NOT!
For the most part.
BUT!
PP is under Contract with selected Private Health Insurance Providers and the pateints under Obamacare can get "subsidized" 100% for the services per the stipulations in ACA.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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You can parse words all you want, but I have no problem with taxpayer $ going towards PP, in whatever method.
Better to have women (& their partners) have the resources they need to make better parenting decisions, rather than deal with the ramifications of more hungry, sick kids running around society.
Of course, for Republicans, this is yet another hypocrisy issue: oppose anything related to women's control over their own bodies, then force them to carry that baby to term no matter what the circumstance of pregnancy, and then don't provide any kind of assistance to their families when there are kids running around in poverty. You guys are sick. Really sick.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 1, 2015 - 08:35am PT
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The goal posts get moved again.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Some of you vastly overestimate Putin.
Largely, he is wagging the dog. Dog waggers are not strong.
Yet, he regularly sticks it to Obama.
And Obama just takes it.
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dirtbag
climber
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What would you like him to do?
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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I'd like to see Obama quit taking Putin's pawn sacs cause it always costs Obama a piece.
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EdwardT
Trad climber
Retired
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Stop being the patsy.
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philo
climber
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Those of you who are hand wringers whining about how Obama is Putin's lapbitch haven't been paying attention to International Geo-Political realities. Obama has Putin by the short curlies and he knows it. No Obama isn't going to do anything about the Crimea and why would or should he? Some of you really need to expand your sources of information. May I suggest trying the FM dial.
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dirtbag
climber
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Stop being the patsy.
How?
I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm curious what you guys want. Should he talk tougher? Drop more bombs?
Putin is a dickhead and a PITA, but he and Russia are not as strong as they appear.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Speaking of Patsies, online conservative magazine The Federalist, published a scathing criticism of House Republicans doing an incredibly inept job of grilling and humiliating Planned Parenthood head Cecile Richards.
If for some reason you needed additional evidence that the Republican Party was deeply incompetent, unprepared, uncoordinated, inexcusably lazy, then try watching Cecile Richards’ appearance in front of congress yesterday.
Chances that anyone is defunding Planned Parenthood are remote, if there’s any at all. And, yes, the base often has unrealistic expectations about what Congress can do without the presidency. But if you can’t do a better job in these skirmishes, the ones that lay the groundwork for future battles, you’re projecting ineptness. Or, in this case, you’re proving it.
http://thefederalist.com/2015/09/30/the-gop-is-overmatched/
I think it is great fun to have a conservative intellectual rip on his elected Republican Congressmen.
More Please!
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