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nature
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Boulder, CO
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Oct 21, 2015 - 05:23pm PT
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Well now I feel like the kid in the corner with the dunce cap on. Why did they make me crawl into the tail cone of the 172 w/o a flashlight? :-).
How does a frayed cable not get caught in the 100hr maintenance?
Every time I do pre-flight on the tail I'm thinking - wow, I can see 1% of the rudder and elevator cables. That's.... comforting.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Oct 21, 2015 - 05:47pm PT
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How does a frayed cable not get caught in the 100hr maintenance?
Good question but there could be many answers. I'll give you one in a
parable: my step-father died in a famous crash caused directly by union
intransigence about shift times and refusing to finish a critical procedure.
The failure to finish it properly was not documented and the next shift did
not catch it and 273 people died.
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Gary
Social climber
Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Oct 27, 2015 - 12:28pm PT
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http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-drone-power-west-hollywood-20151027-story.html
uthorities are looking for the pilot of a drone that flew into power lines Monday in West Hollywood and knocked out service to hundreds of Southern California Edison customers, officials said.
Witnesses reported seeing a drone buzz into the wires lining Larrabee Street and Sunset Boulevard about 1:15 p.m. knocking one to the ground, said Lt. Edward Ramirez of the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department.
The downed wire cut off power for nearly 700 SCE customers, said company spokesman Robert Villegas.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 27, 2015 - 12:57pm PT
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I wonder if the dude will turn himself in. That's a $3K machine he left hanging around. f'ing idiot.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Check this guy out, Nature.
http://www.vividaa.com/
Claims "SECTION 333 EXEMPTION STATUS: GRANTED" on his website, right next to apparent Sextion 333 Exemption Bozo no-nos, like this...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
and this one ...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
#26. All Flight operations must be conducted at least 500 feet from all nonparticipating persons, vessels, vehicles, and structures unless:...
and
#27. All operations shall be conducted over private or controlled-access property with permission from the property owner/controller or authorized representative.
( from Nature's post, this thread, August 4, outlining the Section 333 stuff -- looking it up here took less time than looking it up on the web )
Oak Harbor and Deception Pass are well within five miles of a busy airport; N.A.S. Whidbey, too.
So, what makes this guy exceptional?
He's the guy in Seattle whose drone fell out of the sky, and onto the parade his drone was flying over, knocking-cold the lady it hit ...
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/woman-knocked-unconscious-by-falling-drone-during-seattles-pride-parade/
... and now he's criminally charged with reckless endangerment:
http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/crime/drone-operator-charged-with-knocking-out-woman-at-pride-parade/
And sometime after he brained the woman, he did an interview with The Whidbey Island Tattler. Not about how he almost killed someone in Seattle. But about he's been hired by the city of Oak Harbor to do aerial video filming, paid for by tax dollars:
http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/329599491.html
I wonder what kind of FAA trouble he's in. Certainly he can't keep his drone certification, not after ignoring a bunch of regs and injuring someone. That's assuming The Feds can put two and two together.
Watching his videos flying directly above crowds, knowing one of his drones fell on someone, is alarming.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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I'll look tomorrow.
I was informed today that we've been granted our 333 Exemption.
It's ON! Time to start a whole new life.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Nov 12, 2015 - 09:47am PT
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Seattle again:
http://www.king5.com/story/news/local/seattle/2015/11/11/seattle-great-wheel-hit-drone/75625830/
"Seattle Great Wheel hit by drone"
"The incident happened just after 4 p.m. Employees say they heard a loud "thud" and saw a drone had crashed onto a plastic table on an outdoor patio area. No one was hit."
Who do we know in The PNW who could do such a thing?
This guy, that's who:
http://www.whidbeynewstimes.com/news/339007401.html
"An Oak Harbor man who runs an aerial media firm is facing a criminal charge in Seattle because his drone crashed and allegedly struck a woman during the Seattle Pride Parade in June."
He didn't knock anybody out this time, so I guess he's sharpening his skills.
A disproportionate amount of lunacy in The PNW has a Whidbey Island connection.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 12, 2015 - 11:07am PT
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Maybe unrelated, maybe not; same mindset in many cases...
Lasers hit 20 aircraft flying in U.S. overnight - FAA
Nov 12 (Reuters) - Dangerous beams from handheld lasers struck 20 aircraft flying over the United States and its territories overnight, among the nearly 5,400 laser hits in the nation so far this year, the Federal Aviation Administration said on Thursday.
No injuries were reported in the incidents, which took place from New York City to Sacramento, and resulted in at least one arrest. Authorities said the incidents did not appear to be linked to each other.
"Shining a laser at an aircraft is a federal crime," the FAA said in a statement.
Laser beams can lead to temporary blindness in pilots and, in some cases, pilots have reported eye injuries that required medical treatment.
As of Oct. 16, the total number of laser strikes around the U.S. this year was 5,352, the FAA said.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/12/planes-laser-idUSL1N1372A920151112
Why are Americans becoming so crazy?
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Todd Townsend
Social climber
Bishop, CA
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Nov 12, 2015 - 11:32am PT
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Here's a short film a buddy of mine shot recently at the Gunks. All the arial footage was done with a drone, as far as I know.
Enjoy.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Nov 12, 2015 - 12:32pm PT
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My latest creation, all shot from flying wing drones, not your typical multirotor drone that everyone pictures when they hear the word drone. We have been flying these fixed wing drones much longer than multirotors, they go faster, go father, can carry more and are so much more fun...but whatever, ...everyone likes the silly multirotors and they sell, so it is what it is...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
There is a giant Worlds Competition next year being put on by the same guys that did the Nationals in Sac. But this time they will have a lot more classes and even fixed wing.
My team and I are looking for a brand or company to send us there as a sponsor if anyone is interested. It's difficult to take your hobby into the professional realm with events in Hawaii and entry costs in the hundreds.
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Spiny Norman
Social climber
Boring, Oregon
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Nov 12, 2015 - 12:44pm PT
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The "it's just a tool" argument is shallow.
Tools are made for specific purposes and facilitate specific classes of actions. That is precisely why they are fabricated. Drones facilitate being a PITA (and possibly dangerous) shitheel.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Nov 12, 2015 - 01:48pm PT
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Good Stuff squishy.
Todd - yeah, that's all shot with a sUA. I'd guess a phantom given the type of video quality.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Nov 12, 2015 - 02:00pm PT
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Drones, as you know them, and the way the word is used, is useless to this convo, it describes nothing useful for the conversation you wish you have, other than defining a remotely operated or autonomous vehicle. Including the RC car you had as a child. The word has existed for nearly 100 years, the tool since the 1930's. The only thing that has changed recently, is the technology to create very capable ones is accessible, that's a door that cannot be shut now, no matter how badly you wish it. even with Radio Shack out of business, lol RIP/./
The drones I fly, both multirotor and fixed wing, are very very purpose built. We design every aspect of our flying wings and multirotors for what we are doing with them, and we also hand build them. Some are designed to fly in and around objects (proximity) and be nimble and tough like mine, others for long range and efficiency (long flight times and long distance). We have race wings, race quads, and others with wide flight envelopes and so on. They are flying film cameras essentially and my video posted above demonstrates the purpose of my machines. If you are insinuating our "purpose built" craft can be used for other things (nefarious intent), you are simply ignorant. There's a lot that goes into flight that you might not be aware of (at every scale), and it's a lot harder than simply gluing a charge or grenade to one to make it a damaging guided missile. I won't get into all the details here, but even though we (FPV pilots) are capable, intent is what is more important now, not the tool (and it would still take a ill intended person years to gather my skill) Why? Because anyone with the internet and enough time can DIY any of this stuff, making the tool a common denominator and the intent or use of the tool the most important part...The best example is cars. They kill people all the time, they are a deadly weapon, they can be made into large bombs and have caused great harm in this country. But everyone has one, and we all don't go around asking each other if we are doing harm with them, it's simply assumed we use the tool the proper way (I am arguing you have no idea what the proper use is of drones like mine)...What I see here is a lot of people who have zero knowledge of the tool, how it's used or why or what and they all want to chime in with an opinion based on fear...from an outside perspective, I can see exactly why and how you think that way...trust that from where I sit, you look ignorant and I would love to educate everyone so this tool is well used and not abused (so what you say doesn't happen, because your disconnect with the tool is far more dangerous than ill intent because the consequences are not planned)..because whether or not they exist or are in our populous, is a sailed ship, so get over it..there are hundreds of drone in your neighborhood right now...Let's be more concerned about the education and experience of their operators more so than the tool itself, because that's what I am truly afraid of...not someone with a bomb on one, but idiots who cannot fly crashing into my daughter (only I get to do that).
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Nov 12, 2015 - 02:27pm PT
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I quit using the word drone when referring to my commercial vehicles. When you see a NOTAM it's a UAS. The paperwork flying back and forth between me and the FAA refers to them as UA - unmanned aircraft.
The kids getting them for christmas - those are drones or whatever.
I could really care less what people call them. But your point is very valid, squishy. calling them drones really says not very much.
All the semantics aside we're pretty much legit at this point to operate commercially. I'm doing everything I can to allow Pagan and me to quit our go now where day jobs.
I'm in communication with someone doing a very well funded reef restoration project in Indonesia. If this heads in the right direction I'll be coordinating a project to do progressive surveys to quantitatively analyze how the reefs are growing. An idea I have is to compare aerial survey data with survey data acquired by divers. Could be the makings for a pilot project that can be applied globally.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Nov 12, 2015 - 02:47pm PT
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You guys want to see the problem with "drones"?
It's seen in people, and here is the latest example...I think these asshats almost get arrested or appear to in almost every video...in this one they happen to use a drone, but the point is, these guys are idoits...don't blame the drone, blame the idoits...
even me if I act like one while flying one, I and others hold our fellow pilots to high standards, as you all do of fellow drivers on the road with your cars...we need the same understanding and education with drones..and we need guys like this to get a beat-down...often...
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Spiny Norman
Social climber
Boring, Oregon
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Nov 12, 2015 - 04:22pm PT
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"The best example is cars. They kill people all the time, they are a deadly weapon, they can be made into large bombs and have caused great harm in this country."
Great harm, with considerably greater harm on the way.
I'm not saying drones should be banned. I am saying that the notion that tools are neutral is pernicious bullshit of the highest order. Indeed, you tacitly acknowledge precisely that point:
The drones I fly, both multirotor and fixed wing, are very very purpose built. We design every aspect of our flying wings and multirotors for what we are doing with them
Not a trace of neutrality there. The question is whether a given class of tools facilitates (though intent or accident) negative actions or outcomes. Cheap RC and autonomous drones, circa 2015, unquestionably facilitate negative actions and outcomes that were not likely or possible a decade ago. They also do incredibly cool things.
Should they be banned? Of course not. In fact the tech is changing so rapidly that I doubt regulation will be particularly effective due to the long lead times for same.
Rob Carlson, who writes mostly about biotechnology, had some useful thoughts three years (an eternity) ago.
What I am objecting to is the "tools are neutral, users are not" argument. That argument always has been, and always will be, shallow and obfuscatory. I linked to the Wiki article on the cobalt bomb not because I'm worried about drones with bombs (I'm not, particularly, unless you consider any guided missile or torpedo a drone) but because the cobalt bomb may be the single best example of a technology that is not — cannot — be, in any sense, neutral.
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Stewart
Trad climber
Courtenay, B.C.
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Nov 12, 2015 - 04:48pm PT
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Scientists continue to struggle in vain to discover a cure for stupidity.
This, combined with their similar lack of success in developing a method of ridding the world of self-absorbed arseholes leads me to believe that a reliable method of identifying the owners of these machines is urgently required so that whoever is responsible for bringing down a commercial airliner (or perpetrating some other tragedy involving innocents) with one of these creations can be speedily located and lobotomized - that is, of course if he/she hasn't already undergone this procedure.
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squishy
Mountain climber
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Nov 19, 2015 - 04:11pm PT
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/19/us-usa-drones-intel-idUSKCN0T827920151119#XD2Bl1JKiZQtRBuC.97
"A federal government approach that is overly prescriptive regarding the deployment of new hardware and software will deter the private sector’s ability to invent and compete in the marketplace," Joshua Walden, Intel's senior vice president and general manager for new technology, said in written testimony submitted to the House Energy and Commerce Subcommittee on Commerce, Manufacturing and Trade.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Nov 19, 2015 - 04:14pm PT
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They are not the only ones thinking of relocating overseas because of the way the government is going about all of this.
I watched the senate subcommittee meeting on sUA today and boy was that a snoozer. they seem to not even understand what it is they are charged with figuring out.
oh well... whatever. at least we're legit finally.
http://www.dtaerialphoto.com
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