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Jingy
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Somewhere out there
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The Chief
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Laughing at all you angry blinded a$#hat Sheep
Nov 6, 2014 - 09:18am PT
My Party???
Nope. I was a DEM till last MAY apogee. I voted for Obama and other DEMS both in 08 and 12.
Gave up on all that "HOPE/CHANGE" bullshet and re-registered as an Independent.
Why change?
Wait.. you bought the hope and change shite?
And what did you think that meant?
How was the hope and change going to effect you when you were voting for it? And how has that changed?
And how can a repub give you that?
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Larry Nelson
Social climber
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Alaska, Oregon and Washington DC have something in common
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Jingy
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Somewhere out there
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^^^ This guy used to be registered as a dem... now registered independent... ^^^
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John M
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the only hope and change I believed in was that Rumsfield, Cheney and Rove were not going to have total control of the reins anymore. That is exactly as far as my belief in hope and change went. And I was grateful that Palin wasn't going to be that close to being the President. What an unmitigated disaster that would have been. If you got sucked in by all the hype, well, then perhaps you should look at yourself.
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Jingy
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Somewhere out there
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the only hope and change I believed in was that Rumsfield, Cheney and Rove were not going to have total control of the reins anymore.
 +1 - 100%
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SC seagoat
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Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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Good gawd. The chief, your spittle rag must be soaked from wiping off your monitor.
Put your mouth where your ass is and let's see the repubs do something for Veterans instead of stopping everything.
Susan
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k-man
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SCruz
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Yes Sketch, I read the article.
But I still have my own opinion on the election.
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steven Curtis
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Petaluma
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Face it: Most of us have huge blind spots.
Bush's comments about the irrelevance of old Europe, and Hillary's recent comment on jobs and government show that even the most political creatures are not immune.
The best try to understand where their misunderstandings lay, and then change themselves. Others conclude their blind spots are actually their opponents' blind spots, and attempt to do battle with blunt sticks.
Shame for the title of this thread.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"Put your mouth where your ass is and let's see the repubs do something for Veterans instead of stopping everything."
Worth repeating.
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Weak, Chief.
But when someone close to us is dying a slow, horrible death, we tend to see any short moment of improvement as evidence of a turnaround.
Then the patient dies, and you move on. Enjoy your delusion, Chief.
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dirtbag
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 6, 2014 - 10:29am PT
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Stick to jackalope stuffing.
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John M
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It was the stain from an administration that has had more scams charged against it that any I can remember.
you have a short memory
which leads to statements like this.. "sunken economy".
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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"Stick to jackalope stuffing."
Bwahahahahahahaaaaa!
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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S 1982, Sanders, would have provided broad sweeping Vet benefits. All Senate Repubs, except 2 voted against it. This legislation was endorsed by a wide range of veteran organizations. Some legislative opposers cited the cost of doing this comprehensive of a benefits package. Obstructionism at its finest.
Does it surprise me that, finally, a bill introduced by a Republican would pass? Of course not. The Dems did not play obstructionist politics with this bill, regardless of Reid and Pelosi.
So if the pieces of S 1982 eventually get introduced piecemeal, and pass, that will eventually be helpful to veterans. But why in the world did they have to wait because of obstructionist politics. More veterans down the rabbit hold because of politics.
I do believe that the Dems will not obstruct legislation to assist Veterans in the way that the Repubs created huge voting blocks of obstruction. The Repubs can come out the heroes now of supporting Veterans if that is what they wish to do. It would be nice to see them finally do the right thing in a comprehensive omnibus manner. No more bits and pieces of which each creates its own bureaucracy.
Susan
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SC seagoat
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, or In What Time Zone Am I?
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One of the primary reasons Repugs sat on his particular bill cus it was clearly a redundant bill that was already included within HR 3230.
Oh, I get it. Sit on a bill that benefits Vets because the other party sponsored it. Makes clear political sense to me. Playing with lives.
Susan
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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This was the billionaires' election, billionaires of both parties.
And while the Republican and Democratic Party billionaires have some differences, what unites them is much stronger than what divides them, a few exceptions aside. Indeed, many of the richest individual and corporate donors give to both parties. The much-discussed left-right polarization is not polarization at all. The political system is actually relatively united and working very effectively for the richest of the rich.
There has never been a better time for the top 1%. The stock market is soaring, profits are high, interest rates are near zero, and taxes are low. The main countervailing forces -- unions, antitrust authorities, and financial regulators -- have been clobbered.
Understanding and Overcoming America's Plutocracy
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JEleazarian
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Fresno CA
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Is the economy better now than it was when Obama took office?
With all due respect, that's only one question about economic performance. The economy has performed exceedingly poorly during most of the Obama administration's tenure, generating the weakest post-war recovery, by far. Every other deep post-war recession ended with a vigorous recovery, except for this one.
Put slightly differently, the issue for economic performance is more than the endpoints. If I make more money in January and December of this year than I did in January and December of 2013, am I better off? Don't I need to know how I did in the other ten months? For the Obama economy, the months in between were abysmal.
Americans were not irrational in thinking that they would have been far better off if the country had pursued different economic policies from those enacted in 2009 and 2010.
John
Edit: k-man, the Obama years have been good for the billionaires. It's been poor for the rest of us.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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You post a lengthy, well researched article, on how the GOP did so well in the election.... and then you ignore it... coming up with a completely different story.... short on facts...
I didn't ignore the story, as you foolishly state. I folded what I read into my perception of what took place.
Short on facts? What, you don't think there's proof that "dark money" and the Republican efforts to make voting more difficult for millions influenced the election, as I stated?
You don't think that there is proof that FOX News and other MSM outlets, owned by corporate conglomerations, have a large influence on how the voting public perceives the American political system?
Tell me, what influences peoples perception of our government, both Congress and the Executive Branch? Do you think they get their ideas from watching C-SPAN??
No, instead you want to believe it's just Obama, flumbering along, that caused this turnout. Yeah, let's turn this whole thing back around, to where it came from before Obama took office--the previous GOP administrations were doing such a swell job.
Short on facts? No, I don't think so.
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