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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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God forgot at least one person when he allotted everyone a little faith....me. Faith is belief without evidence......just something I can't get behind along with- mountain bikes, dogs at crags, working routes, beer in a can, and the republican party.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Donini...You forgot the skate skiers... :]
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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I've got a short list, a long list and a list that changes daily.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Donini....Good job...at least you aren't listless...RJ
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Good call jingy!
I just read it. It was very important Jesus fullfilled it. That's how we know Jesus is the christ! When God scratched the 10 commandments in stone he also wrote them upon our hearts. We all know inhearently we shouldn't kill somebody cause we're mad at them. And an eye for an eye just makes us all blind. But continue down to Matt 5:21,27,33,38,43 I LOVE this chapter thanks for bring it up! This is where U can really start to get the understanding of what type of mindset God wants us in. It's like a law u can break or not break. If u kill someone and the punishment is death u die. But Jesus added that if u are angry with ur brother u are in danger of judgement. What He's talking about is ur emotions. What comes from ur heart. Which starts from ur mind. That's the reason to try and memorize what Jesus said. Now the cherry on the Sunday. In the OT if U broke a commandment U had to sacrifice an animal to take ur sin with him to the grave and U would be cleansed. Well, Jesus paid the ultimate sacrifice when he hung on that cross and shed His Blood for ALL of mankinds sins. Haleuhya!
Through Gods Grace we can go directly to Him in prayer and ask to be forgiven and cover us with the blood of Jesus and He will see us as Holy again! That's the big difference between the NT and OT
IMO
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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When God scratched the 10 commandments in stone he also wrote them upon our hearts.
 The only document that would cemented everything and ended all arguments… that humanity found a special place to put, never to be seen again….
Talk about responsible…
oh, wait… that's right… it's all made up anyway!!!
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splitter
Trad climber
Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
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"Faith is the assurance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen."
Faith is a kind of evidence in it's own right. Something has to prompt faith. It's inane* to assert that faith is held for no reason at all. And, unbelief is a hardness of the heart and is the opposite of faith.
ten commandments - hearts/conscience
edit: * i meant 'inane' not 'insane'!
edit: Jim, believe me, i know what your saying/implying and where you are coming from. i suppose i was fortunate to enact that faith at a young age and it (what i had a mustard seed of faith in) responded in an immediate & huge way. if It/He hadn't responded I would have been dead. And that was enough for me, but it didn't stop there. it is a relationship. a very real person.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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As you have stated, there are ample reasons to have faith but there is no evidence for the validity of beliefs based on faith. Seems like kind of the ultimate placebo, if it works for you go with it. Trust me, it's easier to believe than to not believe but for some of us there is no choice.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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I feel like faith is like a box of chocholates! NO! Just kidding!
A pocket full of diamonds. And we're just going around looking for places to hand them out. Hoping; they'll come back 10 fold. At the same time trying to be confident in where we direct it
I just got rid of a car, because it had some engine malfunction, and it wouldn't always start up right away. I gotta tell ya it was really stressing me out. Walking toward itin the morning, not wanting to be late for work. I'd have an empty gut sorta feeling... So I sold it. Then I prayed and asked God to lead me to a reliable truck. Long story short. I now own a99 Toyota PU. And I picked it because I know of there reliability, durability, economy and comfort. All the traits I'm lookin for to have FAITH this thing is going to get me to work everyday. Now that I've had it for awhile. I'm super confident I should have any problems for awhile. It gives me a sense of peace. I could almost gloat! I'm prowed of my choice in vehicle. It runs Great, rides Great! Doesn't look Great? But I think it will last a long time. So I think mt FAITH in toyotas reputation has already paid off. Maybe even 10 fold. With the peace of mind. And who knows, get back to me in 5 years and see if I'm still happy. That would bE 100 fold! But what do U want from a 1600. Truck? Oh yea the lady that sold it to me lowered the price $500. She was a "Christian" too. So I have an amount off faith that my truck is going to get me wher I need to be for work. And I have an amount of faith that when I go out In the morn in the dark and load my truck of tools. When I get to the job site and set up. The Sun is going to rise and light up my work space. And I have faith in my daughters unibieded Love that when I have small shortcomings
as a parent. Shell forgive me because she knows I'm working toward an everlasting Love.
And I have the most FAITH in my Father Aboves Everlasting Love
Amen
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Captain...or Skully
climber
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That wouldn't take any faith to believe at all. Bingo. What's wrong with that?
"Faith". I have faith in the REAL. It IS.
Fuck a buncha magic.
The thread was better when it was a couple folk makin' jokes.
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Enjoy....wish I could be like you guys.
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Splitter I really don't think we're born with faith in God. I look at my 6 yo daughter and she has no faith in Him. Matter of fact her mother says there's no such thing. And since she has her 5 days a week and me only 2 she's winning out right now. But I am teaching her to have faith in what Daddy tells her is true. Because her mommie doesn't always. I think trust has to be one of the steps toward faith? I think we're born with a certain amount of goodness. IE ; We have the 10 commandments inscribed on our souls and a hole in our heart that can only be filled by our creator.
Amen
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Hey Splitter,
I see what ur Sayin about Rom. 12:3.
This is Paul speaking to the Romans,
Rom 1:5 through Him we ha e received Grace and apostleship for obedience to the faith among all nations for His name.
Rom 12:3 for I, Paul, say through the Grace given to me, to everyone who is among you, not to think of yourself more highly than he ought to think, but to think soberly,, as God has dealt to each one a measure of faith. 12:4. For as we have many members in one body, but all the members do not have the same function.
My side notes says;
Paul refers to his own function in the body as an authoritative apostle "through the Grace given to him". The "measure of faith" is not saving faith but the faith to receive and to exercise the gifts of God apportions to us. The "measure of faith" He gives corresponds to the role He assigns as Creator and Redeemer.
I'm going to meditate on it.
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slayton
Trad climber
Here and There
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Jody, I truly appreciate your replies. I started to copy and paste and respond but realized I was just being confrontational and antagonistic. I'm not a Christian, I don't believe as you do and I don't have the faith that you do. I appreciate your thoughts as long as they don't infringe upon mine in any tangential sense. I'm sure that works in reverse. I suppose that's where it gets murky in public discourse.
All the best,
Sean
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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Hey Jim what "atrocities " are U dealing with?
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BLUEBLOCR
Social climber
joshua tree
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MEEOOWW!
Sorry I'm bored and the cats buggin me
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Christian Circle Jerk…
nice
No way nature…. That vid deserves to be on this page.
They've got to have the knowledge:
[Click to View YouTube Video]
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Robb
Social climber
The other side of life
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"Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends."
Been there, others did
'nuff said
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