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HighDesertDJ
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Jul 24, 2012 - 12:30pm PT
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If I don't know exactly what got him banned then I can't very well be defending it, can I? I'm defending him against the myriad of generalizations in this thread that fatty's presence was "never" a contribution to this site.
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"you don't know what behavior you're deffending"...
Something many conservatives do...
Interesting that after over a decade of posting here that you don't know my political leanings, you just assume something based on an apolitical post I made. The irony is thick.
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John M
climber
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Jul 24, 2012 - 12:33pm PT
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My activity in the Supertopo political "campfire" has been extremely low these past couple of years and I see little reason to invest further in it with a poster like fatty gone.
If you weren't around much, then you missed the change in Jeffs demeanor. Fatty got a lot uglier..He got caught up in the back and forth negativity and then he took it a step further, egged on by Werner.
If you love him so much, then start a bring back Fatty thread. Or is it that all you really wanted to do was get up on that high horse?
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apogee
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Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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Jul 24, 2012 - 12:34pm PT
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HDDJ, most of your post is dead-on true about fattrad. Still, I haven't noticed you around as much over the last year or so (esp. in the polititard threads), and fattrad's 'contribution' had become exceptionally more negative, including some personal attacks that were over the line. Anyone who was here regularly over the last year would clearly see this. (Edit: Except most of those on the right, who crybaby about the victimization of Republicans at ST. Poppycock.)
I don't consider his departure to be any kind of victory. fattrad made a choice to comment the way he did, and CMac decided that this was not in the best interests of ST. C'est la vie.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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Jul 24, 2012 - 12:37pm PT
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His behavior may have well deserved banning. Nowhere do I imply that he shouldn't have been banned. I'm saying, pretty clearly, that the 10+ years of posting that fatty has done on this site was more substantive and valuable than your average poster. If he got over the top mean and didn't curb his behavior then so be it, but it is dishonest to assert that the most recent and worst of him is all that there ever was.
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John M
climber
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Jul 24, 2012 - 12:43pm PT
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but it is dishonest to assert that the most recent and worst of him is all that there ever was.
A lot of us tried to warn him. He didn't' listen.
And most of us who are tired of his sh#t also said that we appreciated the good things that he offered, but enough was enough.
I'm sorry that you weren't around to hear that.
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John M
climber
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Jul 24, 2012 - 12:46pm PT
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I learned a lot from Crowley too. I'm sorry that he isn't around because he helped me shape some of my political views and when he wasn't being a dick he was hella funny and had some great stories and interesting experiences, but enough was enough.
Crowley banned himself and so did Fattrad.
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Chaz
Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
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Jul 24, 2012 - 12:52pm PT
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Look on the bright side:
We lost a frequent poster, but we gained a new Grab Ass Thread!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 25, 2012 - 11:37am PT
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Pat Benatar meets X
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Jul 26, 2012 - 07:50pm PT
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Why? Jeff is no 'different" that any of us?
EDIT
I didn't follow the threads where Jeff was having a go at Norton, so i cannot comment on those. I think that Jeff is somewhat of a "sh*t stirrer", but other than that, he's been okay. Perhaps it is because he has offered to help me in the past (i.e. picking me up at the airport for my mom's funeral) or that we had a beer and a chat in WC/Creektown (what creek, it's gone, so are the walnut trees).
However, if Jeff was unnecessarily harassing Norton, or anyone, then there you have your answer. I like jeff, and all of you, even though I don't know more than a handful personally.
But it is CMac's forum, so to speak, and if he thinks somebody has crossed the line, well...
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monolith
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albany,ca
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Jul 26, 2012 - 08:01pm PT
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Cuz, over a couple months, he harassed Norton regarding his pain medication and his identification and said several time he was trying to make Norton leave the forum. Way different from anyone else here.
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OR
Trad climber
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Jul 26, 2012 - 08:13pm PT
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Is Fatty Jeff back yet? I hope this is temporary.
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Jul 26, 2012 - 08:24pm PT
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Don't hold your breath....
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monolith
climber
albany,ca
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Jul 26, 2012 - 08:28pm PT
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Was Crowley kicked out more than 2 times? If so, Fattrad may get another chance.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 26, 2012 - 09:01pm PT
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Bring back Fattrad.
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BASE104
Social climber
An Oil Field
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Jul 26, 2012 - 09:05pm PT
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The poor guy had an especially bad case of taco-itis.
Hope he is getting some sunshine and smelling the roses. Somebody told me I needed to do that once while burning one on top of HD.
He was right.
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Curt
Boulder climber
Gilbert, AZ
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Jul 26, 2012 - 09:11pm PT
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Is Fatty Jeff back yet? I hope this is temporary.
Me too. 20 years should be sufficient.
Curt
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Jul 26, 2012 - 09:21pm PT
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Perhaps instead of the light being just on or off persons who tread the edge can get warned.
The thing that troubles me is the fear that the taco will get culled down to those in lock step.
Hyde Park was known for being a place disparate views could be aired, not as a place where the Boss and Sir Paul get their cords (chords?) yanked.
(OK, granted, Fatty is more of a Meat Loaf) lol
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Jul 26, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
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Me too. 20 years should be sufficient.
ROTFLMAO!!!!!!!!!1111
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jul 26, 2012 - 09:47pm PT
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...persons who tread the edge can get warned.
Oh, he was warned. That is what is so sad about it. The warning(s) changed nothing in his behavior sadly. :/
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