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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Probably Republicans in early disguise for Hallowe'en, doing their best to terrify and confuse the ordinary folk. Isn't the elephant the symbol of the Republicans? But I'm pretty sure that no one has adopted the bear as their symbol, and that those who did (California - flag) exterminated them.
Hey, I'm trying to keep up my end of the conversation - Jan, Moosie and me seem just about the only ones online tonight, and she's ten hours ahead or something. But I'm going climbing tomorrow.
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Elephants definitely drink more beer.
Home brew made by the locals in northeast India which the elephants started consuming (it's made from an alcoholic grain mash which they love) is the main cause of elephant - human conflict there.
At this point neither humans nor elephants can give up the habit.
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hashbro
Trad climber
Mental Physics........
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as habitat diminishes and conflicts with people increase, could this be the plight of all all bears worldwide?
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2011/0503/Italy-s-largest-animal-is-on-the-brink-of-extinction
Italy's largest animal is on the brink of extinction
The Marsican bears are the largest land animal in Italy, but they could soon be gone from the country's forest and mountains because of traffic accidents, illegally hunting, and unintentional poisoning.
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By Nick Squires, Correspondent / May 3, 2011
Rome
They are the largest terrestrial animal to roam Italy’s forests and mountains, but size has proved no guarantee of survival for Marsican bears. A subspecies of the European brown bear, the breed is now one of the rarest types of bear on the planet.
The population has dropped from around 100 in the 1980s to just 50 today, new research shows, after an increase in the number of animals killed in traffic accidents, illegally shot, or poisoned by bait intended to kill wolves. One bear was found dead on May 3, likely killed by a car.
The number of bears has fallen “below the threshold of survival,” says Giuseppe Rossi, the head of the National Park of Abruzzo, Lazio, and Molise, where most of the bears live.
A new conservation initiative, the €5 million ($7.3 million) Life Arctos project, partly funded by the European Union, is due to run until 2014. Efforts will include putting electric fences around beehives and vegetable gardens to deter the beasts from foraging for food near human populations. Volunteers will plant fruit-bearing trees to which the bears are especially partial, encouraging them to search for food up in the hills rather than around settlements.
The bigger challenge, though, is to stop the bears’ territory from being continually diminished. Italy’s national parks are poorly protected and development is often allowed within their borders – from ski runs and new roads to hydroelectricity projects.
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Big Mike
Trad climber
BC
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Hi guys and gals,
First time poster short time lurker.
I can't believe no one posted this on this thread yet.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/story/2011/07/05/bc-woman-bear-autopsy.html
"There was evidence that Adolph, 72, had been partially consumed by bears, but before the autopsy, police were not sure how she died."
and a follow up report
http://www.livescience.com/15569-bear-attack-forensic-investigation-dna-analysis.html
I live in whistler and we have lots of black bears here. I had one at my bathroom window while my girlfriend was in there and she freaked out and shut it in his face, then he went for the back door which was locked fortunatly.
I was on my way to go climbing at the time, but i had to wait while the bear lumbered down the side of my house and through my front yard. He was a juvenile bear, probably only a yearling.
I watched him go next door from my kitchen window and when i thought we was gone i went outside to load my gear in the truck.
My neighbor pulled up as I was doing this and said "did you see our visitor here?". I said "Yes I saw him before but I thought he was gone?". He said "No he's right there!" pointing towards the side of his house.
I saw him and started yelling at him aggressively and my neighbor layed on the horn and he bolted.
I used to think black bears were harmless too, but this latest news changed that thinking.
I would love to buy a gun to defend myself with but unfortunatly I would be crucified even if I shot the bear in my house in this town.
RMOW (Resort Municipality Of Whistler) forces us to keep our garbarge in the house till we take it to the one of the two "Municipal Waste Transfer Stations". So fortunatly most people don't leave attractants outside but the bears are still attracted to smells from houses and garbage in cars.
I almost had one in my truck the other morning as a result of that. Gotta remember to be more vigilant.
I love bears but not more than i love life!
Mike
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Spider Savage
Mountain climber
SoCal
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FACT: SOME BEARS ARE GREASE-BALLS
A bear tried to feed on this delicious Mercedes at Onion Valley. Totally greased the whole thing.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Bears are portable garbage dumps in their feeding habits. They will eat whatever they find, although I've never seen on eat a dead skunk, as vultures will.
Locker's post was also interesting about "seeing food left unattended" through the windows! My house has Atrium doors and I HAVE seen raccoons trying to get in while I'm sitting at the table eating. I would be very reluctant to kill a bear here on my ranch, since they aren't really a major probem (yet?). There has been only one bear-human interaction in 16 years I've lived here, and that involved one on the neighbor's elderly and Alzheimer's ridden Mother. G & F had to be called out and they shot the bear with a tranquilizer dart before carting it way up into the hills. It had wandered in through an open door in a shop building and then refused to leave willingly; meanwhile old Mildred was wandering around the yard in a daze. Raccoons here are merely "pestiferous" and don't constitute a hazard to life and limb.
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Captain...or Skully
climber
or some such
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Yosemite bears can be the worst. They look into cars like a teenager looks in the fridge. Just lookin'. Of course, their just lookin' can(and probably will) cost ya.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Ah, but what is happening in India where those poor Buddhists and Hindus won't even kill anything even in their own defense? They live in mud huts and simply go get more mud and rebuild.
On the other hand, in Aspen or June Lake, they go get Cragman and rebuild. I understand the frustration of needing to repair animal damage: one of my vehicles was mildly damaged by a pair of cows fighting over some food, and I say mildly since it only cost me $250 for my deductible on the comprehensive of my auto insurance. Anything done to a vehicle these days, no matter how small, costs AT LEAST a grand... A cow butt swinging into a wheel well and...voila!...a grand in repairs. Then a bear tearing into an $80,000 mercedes? Woo Hoo! I'd be on the warpath!
"My home is my castle." Anybody heard THAT one before? Bears are no exception; breaking and entering even by an animal isn't permitted at my house.It's easy to be judgmental and forgiving until it happens TO YOU! In the instance of bear breaking windows and tearing up screens at Cragman's house, his response was entirely justified. I woulda' done the same thing.
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Locker-
I really liked this one'
Bouncing bear breaks trampoline...
Now that's really cool!
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AbeFrohman
Trad climber
new york, NY
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Nice work. I am not criticizing at ALL, I want you to know, but I'm trying to picture it all in my head, Bear was outside on the deck, trying to get IN, you went outside, and basically cornered the bear right?
I do not mean to flame or enrage anyone, I support you blowing the bears head clean off. Just trying to understand.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A community of hairless apes
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Alright, let's cut Cragman, whom is wise, a little slack here. Eh?
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
-A community of hairless apes
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I'm just playing around, here.
Regarding the who versus whom grammar. But you're not biting.
Take the bait. LOL!
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Better:
Let's cut Cragman, who is wise, a little slack here.
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EDIT to ADD
Another example:
While some say it was a bad bear who deserved it, others say it was just a poor bear looking for a way out - to whom Cragman gave his all: four in the head and one in the ass.
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apogee
climber
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"I do not mean to flame or enrage anyone, I support you blowing the bears head clean off."
Ho!!!
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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When i moved to the eastside in 79 , it seemed there were hardly any bear problems..? Now there are numerous ongoing incidents of bear break-ins in mammoth...Incidents where a bear has tried to force it's way into homes as dinner is being cooked and several tug o wars with humans on the other side of the door..I have noticed piles of trash next to dumpsters that the tourons forgot to latch..The hand writing is on the wall..We aren't going to educate the masses or the bear population and the bears are always going to end up on the short end of the shotgun..
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Brokedownclimber
Trad climber
Douglas, WY
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Lookit the paw size on that polar bear sucker! Designed to take a head off with one swipe!!
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Maybe if more people hazed them with rubber slugs and buckshot,..
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