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T Moses
Big Wall climber
Paso Robles
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I am sorry that the hammers are taking longer than expexted to complete! I roped some of my extended family into helping me out with a bunch of the finishing detail work last evening. I will start shipping on Monday. I have over a hundred hammers leashed and detailed. I don't want to send out half finished hammers and the detail work takes time. The first group is ready to go. I am working on proccessing the shipping through USPS right now.
I could really use some extra hands finishing these things off this coming weekend. In the spirit of the open source project I am making an open call out to anyone who thinks they can lend a hand. A crew of about 8-10 and this project could be done next weekend. Even if you don't have a whole lot of mechanical ability I could use some help doing the shipping and the finish detailing. I'll give you a couch/floor/yard space to sleep or pitch a tent on and feed you. I plan on working with whatever crew I can get from after 4pm Friday until we're tired. Get back at it at 9am and work until it's finished. Munge, Roger Brown, Joseph Healy, John Knight and my extended family have pitched in so far. I am sincerly gratful to them for their help. Any help would be awesome. I am about two and a half hours south of San Jose on the 101. If you can help be part of this awesome community project please email me through this site.
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Moof
Big Wall climber
Orygun
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Theron,
I can't come to help, but I'd love to chip in some $$$ for pizza/munchies. Is there a paypal address that would be convenient for such project support?
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Theron... Take the time you need to finish this project with the same dedication that has been there since day 1.
No one is so desperate to go nailing this very instant that they must have a new hammer. And, if they are that hardcore as to nail a new line when it is buttcheek wrinklin' cold out there then I am sure they have an old Yos Hammer they can put to use until their D5 arrives.
Come on folks... we don't want Theron to lose sleep over this. The man is an artisan and we never ask artisans to rush. Come on Michelangelo... get that dave thing done NOW!
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Captain...or Skully
climber
leading the away team, but not in a red shirt!
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Word. Though, if I was in range, I'd be there like shareware. Go Growlbacks!
buttcheek wrinklin' cold Hehehe. Yeah, it's been chilly. Just a bit.
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Disaster Master
Social climber
Born in So-Cal, left my soul in far Nor-Cal.
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Theron,
The more you give, the more some people bitch at you. I don't get it. You and your crew are fantastic and dedicated to an idea.
Ignore the whiners and steady as she goes.
(Wish I could help, but I am out of your area at the moment.)
Rock on!
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Disaster wrote: The more you give, the more some people bitch at you. I don't get it. You and your crew are fantastic and dedicated to an idea.
Ignore the whiners and steady as she goes.
Really...asking for a shipping date after paying for an item is not whining.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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People are just curious about shipping, not bitching, I don't think anyone is to worried about it. No worries, whenever you ship is fine with me Theron! Somehow Nature scammed my hammer #100 anyway, so I'm already screwed..... :( he must have needed it to tenderzie the sushi or something.....
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klk
Trad climber
cali
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sorry i can't help out this weekend. i have to be in the east bay today and head out to the east coast tomorrow.
if folks want rei or bc.com logistics, they should buy gear through a big box. theron isn't even fish-- this is a one-off as a side project subsidized by volunteer labor.
putting down money doesn't buy a solid shio-by date.
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MTucker
Ice climber
Arizona
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Gosh. It has been a month since the build party.
Joe made us all believe that the hammers were ready to go and on their way.
Oh well, guess everyone has their version of the truth.
1st Build Party (12-3-2010) – How many hammers were “built”?
Mungeclimber 12/11/2010
First Route established utilizing a D5?
healyje 12/17/2010
Part of the current short delay is we are also waiting for 500 steel handle wedges which we've decided to ship two of along with each hammer just as A5 did.
healyje 12/21/2010
No one is being put ahead of anyone. We didn't assemble hammers in any given order - we just grabbed heads and hammers and started putting them together. Again, no one is getting shipped hammers before anyone else. Everyone will be getting their hammers about the same time and shipping will start in a day or two. If you want us to hold off shipping until after the holidays send me an pm.
healyje 12/28/2010
They are in the process of being shipped. After five years in the making, I'd like to think that patience would extend a couple of more days.
Ihateplastic
Will have to start bragging how many have been shipped now that the hammers are bout sold out.
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John Mac
Trad climber
Littleton, CO
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Theron,
It was minus 16 in Breckenridge this morning so I'm in no rush to get my hammer. Just take your time and fit it into your other responsibilities. I won't be swinging it till March at the earliest.
Thanks for all your efforts.
Cheers
John
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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I can't believe you f*#ks who are asking for shipping dates, WTF???
Do you want a hand-crafted MADE IN THE USA piece of kick-ass gear???
STFU!!! The man is working on it!!!!!! AND, he also has a family to tend to while he does this FAVOR for us.
Sorry, but you people are weak sometimes....
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2011 - 05:02pm PT
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First off, I very much did give the impression hammers had begun shipping and that was entirely my mistake based on misinterpreting where we were at during a call with Theron. I thought I understood that a second assembly party had already happened and the next step was shipping. What Theron was actually telling me instead, and that I didn't get right, was rather he was just working on the second set of handles by himself.
So where exactly are we? After speaking with Theron this weekend this is the status: approximately 110 hammers have been completely assembled, processed, and are ready to be boxed and shipped. Theron has the USPS flat rate boxes and last night I extracted, formated, and imported the shipping data into a USPS 'Click N Ship' account for Theron. He will begin shipping this week on that first batch of hammers and we are organizing a second and final assembly party, hopefully for this weekend so the balance of hammers can be shipped.
It also sounds like we need to be clear about the what the D5 Open Source Hammer Project is and isn't. It's been an idea we dogged to make a reality over the past five years. What it's not is a 'business' in any sense; in fact it's basically just myself and Theron when it gets down to it, and mostly Theron. Now Simon's website may give the project the appearance of a 'business', but don't let that fool you, Simon was simply utterly gracious in extending his website / visa clearing capability to the project. He has no other involvement and we should all be grateful for his participation.
And who exactly is involved? Well, quite a few folks have been involved with the idea, tracking resources down, verifying or learning various aspects of what would be involved, and financing the production run (thanks all!). But actual humans making hammers? Well, we had a couple of great, great volunteers for the first assembly party in Roger Brown, Munge, John Knight, and Theron's brother who has pitched in a few times to help his brother out with some logistics and errands for the project. But that's it. Sum total of steady labor devoted to the project? One. Theron. Yeah, I did fly down to his place for the first assembly party and will likely head down again for the second as I have the riveting down at this point, but Theron is the one carrying the heavy load. And it should be noted Theron manages the manufacturing facility we're using to make the hammers, has four kids and a very large extended family with lots of work and holiday obligations. He is very much doing the best he can and any mistakes in communication and expectations here are entirely my fault.
Again, we're asking you to be patient for a bit longer. I/We understand you've paid and want your hammer and we're doing our level best to get them out to you as quickly as we can. As I said we'll begin shipping this week and are aiming for a second assembly party this weekend, with the balance of hammer shipping the following week so please bear with us here.
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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I personally have no problem with Theron getting the shpping done in his own time. My request earlier was just to get an update as we hadn't heard anything in a while. No hurry, just wanted to know what was going on.
As has been said many times here, thanks for everything you've done Theron!!
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Simon's website may give the appearance of a 'business', but don't let that fool you,
I know Joseph is tired so let me clarify that the site in question IS a business, a full-fledged corporation actually. While I do occasionally find myself on the red-eye, I do not operate as a fly-by-night.
It's all butta as Diana would say.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2011 - 06:25pm PT
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Sorry Simon, I didn't mean it that way. You are definitely a business (and I'm definitely exhausted) - just meant the D5 Project isn't a 'business' and your gracious involvement is tangential to the fact. And that the D5 Project isn't a formal part of your business and vice-versa.
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Bob D'A
Trad climber
Taos, NM
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Thanks Joe...I think that most folks were under the impression that the hammers were being shipped back in early December.
Blue..go back into the hole you crawl out of.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Jan 2, 2011 - 06:33pm PT
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Again, sorry for the misunderstanding - we hadn't assembled any hammers until second weekend in December and have been sorting out getting more handles, wedges, folks for a second assembly party, and shipping ever since. My apologies for both the delay and any miscommunication.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Sheesh! It's not as though many (if any) of us are likely to be using a new hammer in the near future, even if it arrived UPS express tomorrow. Good things are worth waiting for - didn't your grannies tell you?
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steelmnkey
climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
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Sheesh! It's not as though many (if any) of us are likely to be using a new hammer in the near future, even if it arrived UPS express tomorrow.
All due respect MH, speak for yourself. We'll be back in the 60's in a couple of days. Climbing is year 'round in my neck of the woods. It's hammer time!! :-)
But I'm patient and I can wait no problem.
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T Moses
Big Wall climber
Paso Robles
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Typed in the right search (D5 Hammer) in the wrong box (youtube instead of Supertopo) and look what I found: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spcSO1BseXs
I look nothing like that BTW.
I have two solid volunteers coming to help out on Saturday. Thanks for the encouragement from those who can not attend.
I had to bribe my wife to come help me with shipping. Hurray for a D5 shipping clerk!
Moof, my email has been the same for ten years. Do you have my email address from before? If you don't have it PM me through ST. Thanks for helping fund this project!
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