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healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 16, 2012 - 03:48pm PT
If you've ever been in the Navy you have no problem believing the chief was a chief, believe me. I do find something odd about this photo, however.

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
Norte_Caroliņa_Climber

Gym climber
BigWall Baller From the Holler
Nov 16, 2012 - 04:07pm PT
2011 Ford Fiesta (avg 39-40 mpg btw)and you are off by about 5"... 68"

Is at right Cheif? Cause the Fiesta must have grown a smidgen since last one I seen.


And boy, you ain't 5'8" in high heels standing on your soapbox. I'm sticking with Mugsy Bogues, 5'3, 5'4" tops.
Norte_Caroliņa_Climber

Gym climber
BigWall Baller From the Holler
Nov 16, 2012 - 04:14pm PT
So your BS theory just got blown to shet, KC-135 boy

Boy? Who you callin' boy? You stand about as high as my nutsack, Popeye the sailorman. I'll say one thing for the USAF, they never made us wear no queer lookin sh#t like you got on there. Them bell bottoms, ya'll going to war or the Disco? Notice how the officers don't wear that silly lookin sh#t? Tween them condom hats and bell bottoms and village people look, ya'll could be a walkin AIDs awareness commerical.

It's right funny too how you gotta call it in all inches to make it sound bigger. 53, 54 tops, Popeye.

My bad on perpetutin the non german ramble and offtopic stuff. I'll take a break for this moran Chief gets me riled.
Norte_Caroliņa_Climber

Gym climber
BigWall Baller From the Holler
Nov 16, 2012 - 04:34pm PT
That Chief hangs around with basketball teams I reckon. Or maybe they're all from Lake Woebegon where every kid is above average, you know Bein that's he's "average height" an all:



Somehow "avg height" means always the shortest little napolean on the scene. Hardy har har. Ok for real I gotta get outta here, I stopped on them other forums cause it was all bullshittin and no real stuff and I ain't helping the cause.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 16, 2012 - 04:35pm PT
Chief, you're way ahead in the game when you say the planet is warming, there is nothing to be done about it, so get over it. The minute you drop into the science you lose all credibility.

If you stick with that then you maintain enough credibility to the debate the point of whether there really is nothing to be done about it and what society's response as "getting over it" should be. But on the science front? You're just in way over your head.
Norte_Caroliņa_Climber

Gym climber
BigWall Baller From the Holler
Nov 16, 2012 - 06:19pm PT

Hey Chief, WATCH OUT!!!1 That penguin is fixin to take a sh#t on yer noggin. Good thing you got that condom on your head.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 16, 2012 - 06:30pm PT
Even humans were at part at fault.

Again, stick with what we should or shouldn't do about it as you're completely lost on this ground. What's 'intolerable' is in the eye of the beholder, what's plausible over a fifty year span debatable, that we should sit around and further compound and exacerbate the problem is ignorance.
Mimi

climber
Nov 17, 2012 - 12:25am PT
The Chief, to ask again. Do you really hold the position that we don't benefit from science? Or that the common man doesn't?
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
Nov 17, 2012 - 03:01am PT
K-Man,

There are a lot of new and really interesting things going on in paleoclimate research now. This includes the big ones, the anoxic oceanic events. The big ones can be traced to equally dated rocks of that time located at widely seperated spots on Earth.

There is also a cool twist on using leaf stomata to measure CO2 partial presures at the moment the leaf was deposited. Since many well preserved leaf fossils are common, you can count stomata density increase or decrease along with fall and rise of CO2 concentrations.

There are some others. Go to wiki and look up Oxygen Isotope ratios.

I would go on, but Chief makes these threads f*#king unbearable for me. He says that he lives his day to the fullest, just the way he wants to, but I didn't know that that involved getting up and posting on this thread in the a.m. and still hard at it late at night.

I get zoned in on the taco myself sometimes.

You can go over on the science/religion/ politics thread and read all about what Chief thinks about scientists.

Until he leaves, I don't even like reading this thread.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Nov 17, 2012 - 10:35am PT
BASE104:
There are a lot of new and really interesting things going on in paleoclimate research now.

IFO enjoy reading your posts. My dad is a geologist but more of the igneous/metamorphic persuasion, so your sedimentary/petro perspective is fresh to me. I hang out with ice researchers too, but their "paleo" tends to be more recent than what you write about. Hope you'll keep posting when inspired.

Until he leaves, I don't even like reading this thread.

Chief understands none of the science but has more free time and anger than anyone else here. Why he needs so much attention I don't know.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 17, 2012 - 02:53pm PT
Go to Wiki and look up human. Then look up planet earth.

Human: 50 something thousand years.

Earth: 4.54 Billion years.

The arrogance of human conceived science stating it knows all and then can now control it, will NEVER compare to the infinite power of the universe.

What a strange post. You only know how old humans and the earth are because of science. Without science you would believe that the human race and earth are less than 10,000 years old.

Also, you only think of the universe as infinite because of the modern science of astronomy.
WBraun

climber
Nov 17, 2012 - 03:19pm PT
Without science you would believe that the human race and earth are less than 10,000 years old.

That's not true at all.

The age of the Universe is given precisely in the Vedas.

The knowledge how to split the atom is also there.

The Brahmastra bomb is also given.

Just because western material science says so on anything doesn't mean it has never been given elsewhere.

There's an incredible amount of advanced knowledge there along with precise advanced mathematics.

This is why I say Modern western material science is still in the dark caveman era ......
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Nov 17, 2012 - 03:24pm PT
What a strange post. You only know how old humans and the earth are because of science. Without science you would believe that the human race and earth are less than 10,000 years old.

Also, you only think of the universe as infinite because of the modern science of astronomy.


And you think you know everything about climate, right?

Your argument is self-defeating. It illustrates that we live in a natural world, revolving around a heat source that is unstable.

Sh#t happens. Got little to do with burning dead dinosaurs. I know you guys know this, why you continually lie is baffling!

Actually it's not, I know your game....
raymond phule

climber
Nov 17, 2012 - 03:27pm PT

And you think you know everything about climate, right?
Who has said that they know everything about the climate?

That must be one of the most extreme strawman arguments that I have ever seen...
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 17, 2012 - 03:43pm PT
Without science you would believe that the human race and earth are less than 10,000 years old.

That's not true at all.

The age of the Universe is given precisely in the Vedas.

The knowledge how to split the atom is also there.

It is true, because I wasn't talking to you, Werner, and you're the only one here foolish enough to be a Hare Krishna. I wish you would stop asking me for money at the airport.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 17, 2012 - 03:44pm PT
Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any more stupid, Bluering enters.
healyje

Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
Nov 17, 2012 - 06:20pm PT
Thanking NWO for posting up one of his sub-clinical rants is by itself about as self-defining (if not self-diagnosing) an act as there is and definitely a step down even from sourcing Vedic fairy tales.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Nov 17, 2012 - 06:29pm PT
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graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 17, 2012 - 07:09pm PT
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2003/17jan_solcon/


http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/solact.html




The illustrations at left show the raw data for temperature and solar activity at the top, then that data with a 11 year running average to filter out the normal solar activity period. The middle graph suggests a correlation between solar activity and temperature, even though the peaks are offset. But when the last few years of data are included, the curves diverge and severely weaken the case for the driving of temperature by this measure of solar activity. These illustrations were prepared by Chris Merchant, School of GeoSciences, University of Edinburgh from the original data.
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