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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 26, 2016 - 09:41am PT
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So justice is only served if your preconceived result is obtained.
You know that that's an oversimplification.
We await the FBI report, and we will all evaluate whether or not "other factors" trumped justice.
Nobody was depending upon "preconceived results" to KNOW that when Ford pardoned Nixon justice was not served. We're not idiots, and when we see that "other factors" trump an objective comparison between statute and behavior, justice is not served.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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May 26, 2016 - 09:43am PT
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k-man posted Well, folks are quoting Op-Ed pieces published by MSM news sources that are owned by large multi-national conglomerates, and treating that as sound journalism
Op-eds are op-eds. Journalism is journalism. Op-eds can be based on sound journalism.
madbolter posted I was basically agreeing with you, but you just aren't having it.
What's pathetic about your response is that there was less than a minute between when I posted and when you posted, which means that you commented on the video clip without even bothering to watch one single minute of it. Yeah! "Intellectual honesty" on full display.
If you honestly think everyone reads a third of what you write, you're crazy. I routinely post hard data that you ignore or just decide you don't want to believe so spare me your crocodile tears for intellectual honesty. I made no comment about the content of the video only the credibility of the source. I don't care if someone agrees with me or not, random guy shooting a video up his nose in his living room isn't a good rebuttal to anything.
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apogee
climber
Technically expert, safe belayer, can lead if easy
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May 26, 2016 - 10:13am PT
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HDDJ +1
mb.....notsomuch.
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Gary
Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
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May 26, 2016 - 10:54am PT
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there won't be a big stock crash, real estate crash and massive job losses after elections, not to mention banks going bankrupt and feds having to pay insurance on deposits.
Because in the past that has only happened under socialist presidents?
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 26, 2016 - 11:59am PT
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If you honestly think everyone reads a third of what you write, you're crazy.
Ah, so what you're saying is that you just don't bother to read (although you'll comment on) what I write. Even when it's just a couple of paragraphs, which is no "wall of text," you just can't be bothered.
I routinely post hard data that you ignore or just decide you don't want to believe so spare me your crocodile tears for intellectual honesty.
Actually, you routinely post heavily-interpreted data (such as your BS on Australian gun control "successes" that even their Department of Justice now admit had no measurable positive effect), and I do indeed respond with hard data to show that your interpretations are not sustainable, such as by citing their own analysts that flat-out state that there was no statistically significant effect.
Show where you've cited "hard data" that I have "ignored." Or perhaps you mean that when YOU post, I am duty bound to always respond. Oh, and I must do that without any "wall of text," however you happen to feel like interpreting that phrase at any given moment.
I made no comment about the content of the video only the credibility of the source.
You could not have known about the credibility of the source without watching the video or going to the original link, and you clearly did neither. If you had, you would not have said what you said about his credibility.
What actually happened is that you (maybe) went so far as to click "play" and then just dismissively (not intellectually honestly) said, "Nah, just some dude in his living room." Can you man up enough to admit that fact?
I don't care if someone agrees with me or not, random guy shooting a video up his nose in his living room isn't a good rebuttal to anything.
And there it is.
The "guy" is not some "random guy," and if you can't be bothered to even listen to counterarguments, then you're not being intellectually honest.
It's okay. Now I see clearly the game you're playing. I won't take you seriously (so will treat your future-posted "hard data") as coming from "just some random guy" and act according to your standard of dismissal.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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May 26, 2016 - 12:25pm PT
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MB posted Or perhaps you mean that when YOU post, I am duty bound to always respond.
Of course not. That would mean you would have to stop pretending that nobody responds to you substantively and that despite your rational, calm and insightful posts you are perpetually the victim of completely undeserved derision and ad hominem attacks. I would never assume you do such a thing.
(I have numerous times posted data that you literally asked for and you just move on to respond to people attacking you or decide that you didn't like the data. You've done it repeatedly, MB.)
MB posted It's okay. Now I see clearly the game you're playing. I won't take you seriously (so will treat your future-posted "hard data") as coming from "just some random guy" and act according to your standard of dismissal.
Does this mean you'll stop posting 5 paragraph rageposts at me that contradict things you've done and said the page earlier? Because I'd miss that.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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May 26, 2016 - 12:39pm PT
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Making Locker smile makes my whole weekend!
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madbolter1
Big Wall climber
Denver, CO
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May 26, 2016 - 01:01pm PT
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That's a pretty low bar to get over.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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May 26, 2016 - 05:05pm PT
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Much like your posting.
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Hawkeye
climber
State of Mine
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May 26, 2016 - 09:07pm PT
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So if I make a video in my living room and post it on YouTube am I a credible news source? Man this is a great time we live in. I'm gonna go make some ark on the moon videos.
lol. my thoughts exactly. contact klimmer for expert commentary.
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kattz
climber
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May 27, 2016 - 11:36pm PT
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So, Burlington College closes, run into the ground by Sander's wife.
She burdened them with so much debt they now have to do.
This would be the future of America under socialists...
This the kind of "free college" they have in store.
http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/16/bernie-sanderss-wife-just-destroyed-an-entire-college/
A college once run by Sen. Bernie Sanders’s wife Jane has announced it’s closing in two weeks, thanks to a crushing debt burden it took on during her presidency.
Jane Sanders served as president of Burlington College in Vermont from 2004 to 2011. When she took over, the tiny school had just a few hundred students and was based out of a small building in Burlington, but Sanders dreamed of much greater things. In 2010, she spearheaded an effort to borrow about $10 million in order to buy a large property being sold off by the Catholic Diocese of Burlington. The new, expansive property would provide the college a much larger campus and would allow it to heavily boost enrollment.
The plan at the time was to transform Burlington College from a tiny school of just a couple hundred students into a bigger regional academic player, with an enrollment of 600 or more.
But the amount of debt was dramatic for such a tiny school, and it ended up backfiring horribly. The college’s enrollment did not rise quickly enough to finance its debt payments, and instead its financial position rapidly deteriorated. In 2011, Sanders resigned as president, and subsequent administrators tried frantically to keep the school afloat. Expenses were slashed, the school dipped into its tiny endowment to meet routine expenses, and the school sold off a huge swath of the property it had so recently purchased.
Finally, last week, Burlington College reached the end of its rope. Administrators were informed their line of credit would not be renewed, while the The New England Association of Schools and Colleges was expected to revoked its accreditation because of its financial state. Seeing no way forward, the board of trustees voted Friday to end academic operations May 27.
In a statement, Burlington College Dean of Operations Coralee Holm bluntly said the college failed due to “the crushing weight of the debt incurred by the purchase of the Archdiocese property” made by Sanders.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/05/16/bernie-sanderss-wife-just-destroyed-an-entire-college/#ixzz49vi3lJmF
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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^^^^^^^^^Interesting how you respond, then try to claim you don't have enough interest to respond. Does it hurt? Go Bernie!!
I see you clearly don't understand the word free.
By the time you realize that all the policies driven by jealousy stemming from attempts to redistribute wealth do nothing but make the semi-poor poorer and the 1% richer.......
You'll have a new set of problems to deal with so don't worry.
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HighDesertDJ
Trad climber
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No, it's just that you have a double standard for your fake definition of it.
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Norton
Social climber
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I am still waiting for Exkopeeta to tell us what individual liberties and freedoms he has lost.
I am still waiting for him to tell us how Hillary Clinton harmed the "grunts" by ordering the military to "stand down" during the assault on our embassy.
Lying comes natural to you doesn't it, Excopeeta"
Just like your boy Trump
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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How old are you? Lol.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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I am still waiting for him to tell us how Hillary Clinton harmed the "grunts" by ordering the military to "stand down" during the assault on our embassy.
Norton..... why don't you ask one of those GRUNTS who got a cattle prod shoved up their ass.....
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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Guyman,
Lowering your standards to argue with Norton? You're way above that....
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