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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:15pm PT
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The republicans have invested an enormous amount of energy over the last 40 years trying to convince their obedient voters that the democratic voters are evil and supportive of the despicable socialist commies ...Having quickly discarded that script , the Republican party now decided supporting putin and the despicable socialist commies isn't so bad as long as it gives the struggling 1% Americans , the ones that own most of the American wealth , a much needed economic boost....
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:21pm PT
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Yes,but,the economy wouldn’t be cranking.
Tomorrow,
I will change that to would.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:29pm PT
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The economy is cranking...America is finally great again...Shame that Donald , after all he's done to help himself , might end up in jail...
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:33pm PT
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Damn shame.
He probably would still do all right,I mean,The Inmate Apprentice.
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StahlBro
Trad climber
San Diego, CA
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:34pm PT
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After the witnessing the tRump sh*t show, I have to wonder how much worse would Putin actually be? Might be an upgrade.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2018 - 06:36pm PT
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The economy may be cranking (actually, on Wall Street, they prefer good, clean cocaine) but the numbers are deceptive.
How can the economy be in such good shape, when prosperous cities, like Los Angeles and San Francisco, have so many homeless people?
If the 1% are reaping huge, huge profits, and people at the other end are sleeping on the streets and starving, does that mean that, overall, the economy is booming? If one guy has a million dollars, and nine people have nothing, does that mean that everybody is doing OK, with an average of $100,000 each?
What sort of economic booming do we want? Everything for a few, or a more even distribution?
Without regulation, we will have the former, which is why the rich people are so against regulation.
The "cranking" economy is not "cranking" for most American workers. Even with the big tax cut, and low unemployment, real wages are down, compared to a few years ago. Meanwhile, housing and other living expenses are rising, meaning that standards of living are dropping.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2018/06/15/for-the-biggest-group-of-american-workers-wages-arent-just-flat-theyre-falling/
https://www.thenation.com/article/the-real-reason-workers-cant-get-a-raise/
https://hbr.org/2017/10/why-wages-arent-growing-in-america
MEGA = Make Excess Great Again
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:38pm PT
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Putin should become POTUS.
Americans are too st00pid and need him.
St00pid American idiots know only one thing.
Being continually brainwashed by their own brainwashed st00pid media and st00pid corrupt intelligent agencies ......
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:40pm PT
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Yeah,man.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2018 - 06:40pm PT
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So, these two bars go into a duck.
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The duck ate two Clif bars before effecting a cliff rescue.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:45pm PT
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Two Irishmen walk out of a bar....
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2018 - 06:49pm PT
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..... after knocking a few back, and then knocking a few down. Enough for one evening.
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Yury
Mountain climber
T.O.
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:50pm PT
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Norton:
I will put up my money to say that Donald Trump does not win the Presidential election in 2020.
Anyone willing to bet that he does, how about you PUD, or Blah Blah, or Cosmc, etc?
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How about $5000? I am confused.
AFAIR several months ago all progressive liberals on this forum proclaimed en masse that Trump would be impeached in a few month and would leave his office soon.
Does it mean that they have changed their forecast and that they now believe that Trump will serve until the end of his 1st term?
Personally I believe that Trump will be removed.
It's already second time when he has crossed the party line and spoke against The Party of War (that represents interests of the US Military-Industrial Complex).
Such heinous crime should not be tolerated.
All progressives should unite with conservatives to stop Trump and give war a chance!
Make wars not peace!
All these anti-Russia, anti-Syria, anti-Iran etc. propaganda campaigns are organised on behalf of US Military-Industrial Complex by US States Department and US Party of War to brainwash Americans and make future wars more palatable for them.
Anti-Russia propaganda campaign in the riskiest one because even a small military confrontation can escalate to a full blown nuclear exchange where millions of people (Russians and Americans) can die.
What is your understanding of the end game of this campaign?
Initially I was not sure about it, but recently more people started talking about nuclear war as its logical conclusion.
How much money are you willing to bet that such war would not happen?
Do you accept the risk that lives of your family, friends and other people can be lost in such war?
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Jul 19, 2018 - 06:52pm PT
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Gnome Ofthe Diabase
climber
Out Of Bed
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Jul 19, 2018 - 07:05pm PT
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ha, i'll bite, Jim, I'm a mean mudderfuder and I know that we are seeing the lost democracy
puked out onto the rug. It stinks, but the loss was years ago, what we have here is just the regurgitation of what "Dubu-U" & Cheney, Rumsfeld-drunk Wineberger and those kleptocrates stole.. before Barry, that commie loving member of the Muzlim brotherhood, Kenyan, who stole the election, from who was it again the last time ? the 1st?
so please some of us lean left while standing solidly in the bossom of this nazi right wing.
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2018 - 07:07pm PT
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AFAIR several months ago all progressive liberals on this forum proclaimed en masse that Trump would be impeached in a few month and would leave his office soon.
AFAEER, that is not correct, at all.
Not all people, of any group, proclaimed that it would only take a few months for Mueller to conclude his investigation, for Trump to be impeached, or that he would leave office soon.
The Watergate investigation took over two years before Noxin The Toxin resigned in disgrace. The Whitewater investigation lasted six years, with no definitive result. The New York Attorney General investigated for over two years before bringing a civil lawsuit against Trump and The Three Stooges to shut down their fraudulent Trump Foundation sham-charity.
Meuller has already indicted three dozen people, obtained confessions from about six, and one person is already in Federal prison.
Mueller has served up the appetizer, the soup, and the salad, but you are still falsely claiming that dinner is not being served. It's already happening. We're just waiting for the main course, and with great anticipation, a fat dessert with yellow cotton candy on top.
Trump, and his henchmen, are like raw meat to a master like Mueller. He is cooking them up, long and slow, so that they will be tender, juicy and easy to digest when he serves them up to the Department of Justice.
Quickly deep frying a few of the little guys, and calling it good, is for amateurs. That might work for Donald Trump's lunch, but not for the tremendously satisfying Trump feast that Mueller has been preparing for us all these months.
Mueller's favorite book might be How To Serve Man.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jul 19, 2018 - 07:17pm PT
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Tom...I'm with donald on his gripe that mueller is taking too long...You'd think it was a time and material investigation..? can't mueller water board trump right now and get a confession before trump has the supreme court ban the dubious practice..?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jul 19, 2018 - 07:27pm PT
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We know that Trump's people met with Russians and lied about it. We know Trump said he was thinking of “this Russia thing” when he decided to fire Comey. There's plenty of evidence to demand investigations of illegal election activities or obstruction of justice.
Where will it lead? The public doesn't know yet. Maybe Trump didn't know his people were meeting with Russians. Maybe he did and he'll be caught red handed. Maybe he was smart enough to avoid any evidence he was involved. Maybe he was so incompetent (and didn't have good advisers) he didn't mean to do anything illegal but still broke the law.
But the fact that people (including him) say it's a witch hunt is ridiculous. There's plenty of fishy stuff that went on, and anybody who believes in justice should want to see it play out, even if he's innocent.
Often when he talks about collusion he crosses his arms. A classic well known defensive posture that he should know shows he's hiding something, but maybe he really is that stupid.
It will be interesting to see if evidence is presented he broke the law or if he's impeached who will still support him. Nixon had better approval pre watergate, and went to about 25% approval afterwards. Even if he's proven guilty and impeached you know there will be a minority who will still believe his lies when he will still say it was all a witch hunt.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Jul 19, 2018 - 07:28pm PT
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Trump hasn't canned Mueller yet... Mueller has called Trump's bluff and is holding some good cards...
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Tom
Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 19, 2018 - 07:36pm PT
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Some gamblers hoard their losing horse racing slips, because they can't bear the thought of throwing them away, and admitting failure.
They delude themselves that, somehow, magically, My Lucky Golden Boy, from Queens, will win if they stare at the expired racing slip long enough, and say, "He'll win, he'll win, he'll win" with enough faith and conviction.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Jul 19, 2018 - 07:46pm PT
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De facto, Pootang is running the show. Why not swap out Trump for him.
He;s certainly the slicker of the two. Then tRump can build his hotel and golf course unimpeded.
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