1977 Airplane Crash in Yosemite

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Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 11, 2008 - 01:38am PT
I never heard anything about it!!!!!
Robb

Social climber
Pick Up Truck Heaven
Jul 11, 2008 - 02:09am PT
Cough,cough,musty, huh, what plane?
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 11, 2008 - 02:23am PT
Ken...Yep, thats one of those major issues. I talked to the guy that flys that plane on the web site. He agreed that if the purtty interior was stripped down, the load would be...well, lets just say it would have been a hell of a lot more.
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2008 - 02:44am PT
I have a letter from the FBI that says Jack Dorn was the guy that found not only the black book, but also the wallet of one of the two pilots. The report says he removed a fairly good amount of bucks from it.

This is a letter from Clarence Kelly, Director of the FBI at the time.
Double D

climber
Jul 22, 2008 - 01:11pm PT
Silly, wild goose chases with little verifiable facts...besides who remembers the '70's?
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2008 - 02:11pm PT
The story is written, but people are still contacting me with new stories and information. Some of it fantastic as always and some of it that takes me out on "wild goose chases" that turn out to be totally bogus.

I'm waiting for the DEA to come up with their package. That ought to be interesting.

I found a guy that used to fly the plane in Canada before it was modified. So his stories will be included.

I'm pretty sure I have the time line put together in an accurate sequence of events. That was a major hurdle from the get go.

As for remembering the 70s, for the little things most people seem to have problems, but since this was no little event in just about any player's life, the memories are very clear.
Double D

climber
Jul 22, 2008 - 03:29pm PT
Sorry Licky, I wasn't referring to your book, just reacting to the many posts that miss the mark. I'm sure you've done an exhuastive amount of research and found some interesting stories about the Yosemite Klondike and all the tragedies that followed.
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 22, 2008 - 06:55pm PT
Double D...not a problem.

If you start at the beginning of this thread and read between the lines you'll hear a bunch of amazing stories. My favorite posts are those by "Chainsaw" and the support I received by the followers/participants in this event.
rectorsquid

climber
Lake Tahoe
Jul 22, 2008 - 06:58pm PT
Licky,

After 3 years and 2 months of these posts on the taco, it's amazing you still have interest in this book. I guess it takes that long to get something done right. You might want to consider publishing what you have since waiting for all of the information might mean never publishing the book. It would be a huge disappointment to never see it after following these posts for so many years.

Dave
Chicken Skinner

Trad climber
Yosemite
Jul 22, 2008 - 10:10pm PT
Jack did find, with one other person, $1,600 in 50 dollar bills and the book in a wallet in a down jacket embedded in ice near the nose cone. How do I know? Can't say! I was dating a girl who worked in the Wells Fargo bank during that time and apparently the wet bills had a distinctive smell.

Ken
Double D

climber
Jul 23, 2008 - 12:08am PT
Has anyone documented all the folks that died after the Loadstar klondike? Not saying that it had anything to do with the crash but there were several rather unfortunate souls that didn't live to tell their grandkids about it. Jack for one. That was a weird deal. Years later, Mark Tozier was struck by lightning. Many other strange happenings in folks lives just sort of happened after that. If I remember right, the black book, wallet and human remains in a sock were all found at the same time.

Many 'o mustache was flared by that stuff. I'm sure the fumes had to be rather unhealthy.

Good luck on the book. Wild times for sure.
Blitzo

Social climber
Earth
Jul 23, 2008 - 01:58am PT
I remember Jack. A really good dude! Remember that convertable that he bought? R.I.P.
Double D

climber
Jul 23, 2008 - 07:16am PT
You mean the one with Playboy center-fold pin-ups pasted all over the interior? Yeah, I remember that. When I knew Jack he was 30, I was maybe 19 and I remember discussing amongst my peers how cool it was that this "really old dude" could just hang with the rest of us. All we could fathom was, "man I hope we're all that cool when we're 30!"

Jack is greatly missed!
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2008 - 02:20pm PT
rectorsquid...Unlike a novel where holes in the facts can be filled in with what ever sounds good, this book will be a historical accounting of the event. I'm sure if you bought a publication claiming to be a true historical book about an event you knew something about and found missing facts, or even worse, unsubstantiated facts based on nothing more than rumor you'd feel like your money was not well spent. For that reason I am taking my time, researching every story, backing up my facts, and am constantly finding out new stories.

Ken...funny, that was the exact amount that the Feebies have in their report. Ahhhh..now ya see rector, this is what I'm talking about. An FBI report doesn't make it fact, only that someone put it on paper. Back that up with a few comments from people that knew people that were there and pretty soon I get to the meat and potatoes. And it has taken +3 years to get the FBI report, but it only took a few months to hear about the wallet and its contents.

By the way, if anyone can refresh my memory as to how to post a photo on this thread, I have a few of Jack Dorn.
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jul 23, 2008 - 02:50pm PT
Glad you are taking your time with the book. After all, it's been nearly 4 decades - why rush?

On another note, this thread seems to be taking a long time to reach the 400 post milestone,
so I thought I would help it out a little. Rock on!
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2008 - 03:06pm PT
Good point Hardman....I guess someone has to do it
Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2008 - 09:48pm PT
Lets see how many tries it takes

This is Jack and his Mom when she came out west to visit.

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Here is a new one for those that have been following the story. This is an image of the plane when it was owned by the RCAF in full combat dress.

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Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jul 23, 2008 - 09:52pm PT
Original resized to 700 pixels wide and compressed to 100 KB:

Licky

Mountain climber
California
Topic Author's Reply - Jul 23, 2008 - 09:53pm PT
Hardman...thanks, I was looking for the image resize command. Hint?
Hardman Knott

Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
Jul 23, 2008 - 09:53pm PT
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