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Lituya
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:27am PT
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Errr, did I miss something? Franken is still in office.
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Splater
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Grey Matter
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:28am PT
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"Democrats keep tke the high road and the republicans go low and win, and this keeps happening over and over again... That's a sad, stinky sack of reasoning."
It's sad and it stinks, but
it's also reality.
We have so many idiot voters who fall it.
The Repubhypocrits have used this strategy successfully for many decades.
Why else would we now be cutting taxes for the rich and proclaiming that it is reform?
Why else would the Supreme Court be stacked with fans of Citizen United and unlimited lobbying?
Why else would we be loosening up rules on conservative [religious] lobbying?
Why else would we be taxing grad students tuition waiver as income?
Why else would trumpy be president?
Why else would so many states be gerrymandered for republicans?
Why else would we deny AGW? Why else would we be eliminating net neutrality? Why else are we effectively eliminating the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) from doing anything.
Why else are we crippling the EPA?
Why else has nothing been done to stop the trump crime family from profiting off government use of their private for profit hotels and resorts?
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John M
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:33am PT
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he is resigning. That doesn't mean he has resigned. The time issue is to allow his replacement to be found. The same thing happened with an Arizona senator who recently resigned. He was going to stay until Jan 1st. to allow the governor time to replace him. A few days later he changed his mind because he said his wife was ill, and left sooner. That was after more allegations came to light.
Will Franken actually leave? we will see.
But then, my guess is that you knew all this, you are just trying to stir the pot.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:37am PT
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The real story here is the stark difference in the way Democrats treated Conyers and Franken. No racism here in D-land!
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Splater
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Grey Matter
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:50am PT
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No logic involved at all inside Lituya-land of faux trolls, where facts are always ignored.
As a matter of fact, Lituya it is you who are being the exact Repubhypocrit that I just wrote about in my previous post, the kind who easily ignores serious sexual abuse by trumpy and moore.
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Norton
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The Wastelands
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:53am PT
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The real story here is the stark difference in the way Democrats treated Conyers and Franken.
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both Conyers and Franken are both resigning, what after some 10 days or so after a couple of credible accusations became public, but let's not quibble between days and years
let me think, Trump has 16 women now accusing him of sexual behavior over decades, is he resigning?
are their Republican members of congress suggesting he do so?
stark differences indeed
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Dec 11, 2017 - 11:59am PT
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Again, can't we all just "moveon?"
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Dec 11, 2017 - 12:56pm PT
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What's black and blue and hates sex?
The 14 year old tied up in the back of Roy Moore's van.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Dec 11, 2017 - 01:06pm PT
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ah yes, Bill Clinton, what a sleaze, he should have voluntarily resigned
just like Trump should but would like us all to,,,,,just kind of move on and stop talking about this stuff
first because, he called all 16 of the women who have accused him of improper sex behavior liars, they all lied
secondly because as his press secretary Sarah says, the voters knew about Donald's sex stuff and voted for him anyway
see? the voters excused his behavior because they wanted so badly for him to be President
so enough of this inappropriate sexual harassment or groping stuff, no one cares anymore
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Dec 11, 2017 - 01:26pm PT
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Yep, every last one of you tards was defending Bill Clinton back in the day. "Hundred dollar bill through a trailer Park," anyone? and who can forget "bimbo eruptions?" You all should get off your collective soapbox and revisit your own sad behavior. What, you think because a couple of Democrat perv congressmen have issued (non)resignations it's time for Trump to fall on a sword? You guys are sad.
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Dec 11, 2017 - 01:37pm PT
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Well, you set a standard, in the late 1990s, for presidential behavior that is indefensible. Now, you should defend it. Can you?
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John M
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Dec 11, 2017 - 01:45pm PT
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its not defensible. Just as Trump's behavior isn't defensible. Most liberals are showing signs of understanding this. Just look at the calls for people like Franken to resign.
what is your stance on Trump? And what are conservatives doing?
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Dec 11, 2017 - 02:12pm PT
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It was wrong to defend Clinton for political, or any, reasons. But to re-litigate what was wrong with Clinton as a way of letting Trump off the hook is some slimy logic.
I guess Lituya would have Catholic priests just carry on buggering altar boys, because so many Catholics let other priests get away with it for so long. Why should we hold them to a different standard?
Times are changing, if you haven’t noticed. Out of politeness or respect for the office or where the culture was at the time, the press knew, but didn’t report on JFK’s adulterous womanizing that was abetted by the secret service. And with Bill Clinton many people rationalized a separation of personal behavior and professional ability as a defense. That is not the world we live in now.
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Lennox
climber
in the land of the blind
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Dec 11, 2017 - 02:44pm PT
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Yep, every last one of you tards was defending Bill Clinton back in the day. "Hundred dollar bill through a trailer Park," anyone? and who can forget "bimbo eruptions?" You all should get off your collective soapbox and revisit your own sad behavior. What, you think because a couple of Democrat perv congressmen have issued (non)resignations it's time for Trump to fall on a sword? You guys are sad.
What abou your sad behavior? You seem to know exactly how liberals fvcked up back then, why can’t you do any better now?
Ironically, your own hatred of the Clinton’s and liberals, and your resentment over what you see as the hypocrisy of libs letting their guy get away with something they want to tear your guy down for is blinding you to your own hypocrisy—you are correct that if it isn’t right for Trump, it shouldn’t have been right for Clinton, but also, if it wasn’t right for Clinton, it shouldn’t be right for Trump.
If you believe Clinton should have been chased out of office—how in the hell is it logically consistent to say that Trump shouldn’t?
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Norton
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The Wastelands
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Dec 11, 2017 - 02:49pm PT
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Yep, every last one of you tards was defending Bill Clinton back in the day.
prove it, honey boo boo
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Lituya
Mountain climber
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Dec 11, 2017 - 07:39pm PT
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And with Bill Clinton many people rationalized a separation of personal behavior and professional ability as a defense. That is not the world we live in now.
Ummmm, it was only, like, 19 years ago. The times and acceptable behavior haven't changed at all--and the facts of the Clinton rape allegations/settlements sure haven't. Maybe we can put Clinton and Trump on trial together. I'd be down for that. Otherwise, all I see are mostly libtard Hollywood moguls and politicos finally getting called out for their rot--and a bunch of liberal opportunists hoping for some sort of silver lining.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Dec 11, 2017 - 08:01pm PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Dec 11, 2017 - 08:16pm PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Dec 11, 2017 - 08:17pm PT
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Bookem' Danno
This case is closed
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Ken M
Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
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Dec 11, 2017 - 09:48pm PT
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Yep, every last one of you tards was defending Bill Clinton back in the day. "Hundred dollar bill through a trailer Park," anyone? and who can forget "bimbo eruptions?" You all should get off your collective soapbox and revisit your own sad behavior. What, you think because a couple of Democrat perv congressmen have issued (non)resignations it's time for Trump to fall on a sword? You guys are sad.
You are right. Bill Clinton should step down from his government office.
I didn't see the exposure that you refer to at the time. It was all about Monica, all the time. There was nothing about this in the impeachment hearings, nor the charges brought by the Republicans. They didn't think it was anything special, apparently. Ken Starr spent years and millions, and his final report basically didn't touch on this.
Were Clinton in office today, I would be asking him to step down.
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