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Gary
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Hell is empty and all the devils are here
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Sep 30, 2015 - 03:23pm PT
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You know TGT is right. Apogee, have you ever seen Obama drink a glass of water? On no account will Obama ever drink water, and not without good reason.
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Fritz
Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
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Sep 30, 2015 - 04:06pm PT
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Well! I'll be dipped in dogshit!
Congress today approved funding bill to avert government shutdown. 277 responsible House members from both parties voted Yea, 185 hardline conservatives, who would rather destroy America, if they can't have it exactly their way, voted Nay.
Of course both Idaho's Republican Senators voted Nay, but only one of our two House members voted Nay.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Sep 30, 2015 - 07:11pm PT
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The shutdown has been postponed until Dec.
The Continuing Resolution is only good till Dec. 11, then they have to do this all over again but with the crazies in charge of the GOP
Now they have the fire in their belly with Boehner's head on a platter
They are talking about defunding both Planned Parenthood and ObamaCare
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Norton
Social climber
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Sep 30, 2015 - 07:18pm PT
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They are talking about defunding both Planned Parenthood and ObamaCare
well then I hope they defund the ACA
go ahead, see what happens when 20 million lose their healthcare, see what happens
when insurance companies all of a sudden throw millions out because they have
pre existing conditions
do it, do it, quite screwing around Republicans, stop bluffing
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The Chief
climber
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Sep 30, 2015 - 07:28pm PT
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ok...
Can anyone of you loons answer this.
Why is Planned Parenthood (Federally Funded) needed when Obamacare (ACA) pays for 100% of all the same exact stuff that a Woman of low income that is eligible for such, requires. Including abortions. And she can do so with the physician of her choice. Where as in PP, that is NOT an option.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 30, 2015 - 07:31pm PT
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Am I the only one that saw '60 Minutes'? Putin made the 60 Minutes dude look a proper fool,
kind of like how he toys with Obama.
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 07:32pm PT
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^^^^ Negative Reilly... watched it in it's entirety.
I concur 100% and I say stand the fk by cus he has just begun.
And Obama is NOT going to do a Godamn thing about it except get on the tv and talk more of his bullshet. Watch.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 30, 2015 - 07:37pm PT
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Why is Planned Parenthood (Federally Funded) needed when Obamacare (ACA) pays for 100% of all the same exact stuff that a Woman of low income requires. Including abortions. And she can do so with the physician of her choice. Where as in PP, that is NOT an option.
Completely wrong.
Those public funds come from two programs: Medicaid, the health care program targeted at lower-income Americans, and Title X, a federal family planning program that likewise primarily serves lower-income Americans. The overwhelming majority of federal funding to Planned Parenthood comes from Medicaid — 75 percent...
Not all of the public funds Planned Parenthood receives are federal spending, however. While Title X is a federal program, Medicaid operates using federal and state funds. States receive a 90 percent federal reimbursement on Medicaid family planning spending, for example. So when Washington politicians talk about "defunding" Planned Parenthood, they generally mean cutting off federal money. States could continue to spend as they please.
BTW: "Obama" has options on his desk not only to nuke and/or bunker bomb Iran, but also to "carpet bomb" Syria. He's still reviewing the effectiveness of Nixon's ploy in Southeast Asia though. Probably right though, Obama is no JFK. You do remember the Cuban missile crisis, right?
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 07:41pm PT
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What is completely WRONG, Brown.?
That a low income female on ACA can not have the same medical care for her female issues including Birth Control and abortions, as she can with PP, with a physician of her choice?
OR.. where PP gets it's funding?
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Sep 30, 2015 - 07:48pm PT
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Obamacare (ACA) pays for 100% of all the same exact stuff that a Woman of low income requires
Really?
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 07:58pm PT
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Really!
Why wouldn't it?
We do not have any PP here in my area but there are many very low income females getting all the same stuff at the local rural health and hospital. I know cus my Wife worked with the local low income womens program for two years and had to assist many of those women get set up with .... ACA & Medi-Cal to get them services locally.
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monolith
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state of being
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Sep 30, 2015 - 08:14pm PT
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Low income women who are eligible for medicaid will not get subsidised if they choose an ACA plan. Subsidies in ACA are for moderate income people only.
Since nearly 20 states have opted out of expanding medicaid, that leaves more people falling in the medicaid gap, neither medicaid eligible or ACA subsidy eligible.
Planned Parenthood is essential for people in the medicaid gap and on medicaid.
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TGT
Social climber
So Cal
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Sep 30, 2015 - 08:15pm PT
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PP showed a profit of 127 million last year.
the CEO makes half a million a year.
If the feds were subsidizing a profitable company that made bullets instead of baby parts the progs would all be up in arms.
PP's claim that it only spends 3% of it's budget on abortions would be the same as McDonald's corporate claiming that they only spend 3% of their budget making hamburgers.
Both could be technically true.
They are both in the franchising business.
Both produce dead meat.
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Ricky D
Trad climber
Sierra Westside
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Sep 30, 2015 - 08:19pm PT
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^^^And I ask you the same question I have asked of every Pro-Lifer - "So, how many adopted babies DO you have?"
Funny how the answer has always been "None".
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 08:25pm PT
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Planned Parenthood is essential for people in the medicaid gap and on medicaid.
Then how is that ALL the local women here on the Eastside that pertain to that exact same group you describe, are getting all the same services locally that they would get at a PP but WITHOUT a PP, Mono?
There is NO PP facility on the eastside from Reno to Palmdale.
Damn....
{quote]neither medicaid eligible or ACA subsidy eligible.
Ah, then how are those individuals going to conform to the ACA mandate next April 15th, Mono.
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Sep 30, 2015 - 08:28pm PT
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California has expanded medicaid, Chief. If they can't find a provider who will take medicaid, then they will have to travel farther for PP.
Try to focus.
You done editing, Chief?
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 08:34pm PT
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NO ... you try to focus, Mono.
They don't travel to any PP. They don't need to and in most cases, can't. They get all their services here locally, either through NIH or MMH, MONO. I know, that is what my Wife did for her job that takes care of these particular women here on the Eastside, this past year.
They are covered through Medical or a form of a subsidized ACA health plan that my Wife assisted them in acquiring.
So post your PP endorsing BS somewhere else.
Women and teens can get health care services a number of ways. Regular Medi-Cal covers health care services for women and teens. This includes well-woman check-ups, family planning, pregnancy termination, and cancer screenings and treatment. Women also can get voluntary sterilizations. Some women and teens who are not eligible for regular Medi-Cal can still get women's health services from other programs. http://healthconsumer.org/index.php?id=450
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monolith
climber
state of being
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Sep 30, 2015 - 08:40pm PT
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I'm glad they have some options Chief.
Not all women do.
Again, Chief. Low income women are not eligible for ACA subsidies, no matter what your anecdotal evidence tells you.
Dang, Chief, you done editing?
Yes, Medical is medicaid, Chief. What's yer point? You were talking about ACA.
Again, try to focus.
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The Chief
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Sep 30, 2015 - 08:53pm PT
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Again, Chief. Low income women are not eligible for ACA subsidies, no matter what your anecdotal evidence tells you.
Focus MONO!
That was not my point. My ORIGINAL point is that ACA subsidized health care covers all the same women's health issues as does PP.
But, PP is NOT the only form of Publicly Funded Family Planning available to LOW INCOME women as you state.
WHERE ARE PUBLICLY FUNDED SERVICES PROVIDED?
• In 2010, subsidized family planning services were provided at 8,409 safety-net health centers—3,165 (38%) were federally qualified health centers, 2,439 (29%) were health department clinics, 1,324 (16%) were other clinics, 817 (10%) were Planned Parenthood centers and 664 (8%) were hospital clinics.[10]
• More than one-third (36%) of women who obtained contraceptive care from safety-net centers in 2010 received services from Planned Parenthood sites, 27% from health department clinics, 16% from federally qualified health centers, 13% from other, independent clinics and 8% from hospital outpatient facilities.[10]
• In 2010, there were more than 4,100 Title X-supported centers.[10]
• In 2010, 82% of U.S. counties had at least one safety-net health center providing family planning services, and 72% of counties had at least one Title X‒funded center.[11]
• In 2013, 71% of all women served by publicly funded centers (4.1 million) were served by centers that received some funding from Title X. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/fb_contraceptive_serv.html
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