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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jul 25, 2012 - 12:23am PT
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jul 25, 2012 - 12:26am PT
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UP AGAINST THE WALL RED-NECK MOTHER
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jul 25, 2012 - 12:34am PT
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 25, 2012 - 12:38am PT
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I hope that all you gun nuts know that the government - the one you have paranoid fantasies about, that is - is keeping careful watch on the internet especially this thread, so when the time comes it knows who to round up? They have a little list, you never will be missed.
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zBrown
Ice climber
chingadero de chula vista
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Jul 25, 2012 - 12:40am PT
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GAY GUN POWER IN THE SANDBOX
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Jul 25, 2012 - 12:42am PT
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pazzo
climber
Vancouver BC
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Jul 25, 2012 - 12:47am PT
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Benelli hotness…
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Shack
Big Wall climber
Reno NV
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Jul 25, 2012 - 02:24am PT
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The gun-totin' equivalent of a weekend warrior is more likely to make a situation like that worse than they are to make it better.
Just shows what you know. You obviously have no facts to back that up.
Can you even cite one instance where that has happened?
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Binks
climber
Uranus
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Jul 25, 2012 - 03:15am PT
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guns are lame, losers who tote them everywhere and fetishize them are lame...
you guys are lame
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Jul 25, 2012 - 08:37am PT
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jul 25, 2012 - 09:24am PT
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If guns aren't dangerous. Then nuclear weapons aren't dangerous either. Why do we care which countries have them then?
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the Fet
climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
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Jul 25, 2012 - 10:29am PT
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The anti-gun control folks often say if you ban high capacity magazines, assault rifles, etc. that crazies will just use something else. And yest that's true. We'll never eliminate these senseless acts but reducing the amount of weapons that can cause massive loss of life means when people do go crazy they will cause less loss of life.
Why do you need a magazine capacity over 10? Are you really willing to have more people die so you can have fun and not change clips more often?
And as mentioned previously 30 round clips modified to hold 10 that can be easily restored to 30 are dumb. They should be constructed in a way that is impossible. Over time less and less people will have access to high capacity clips. And it's not just the crazies, the gang bangers etc. will also end up with less potent weapons.
Of course someone could just buy 10 pistols and have them loaded and ready even quicker than changing clips, but the point is the harder you make it to have massive killing power the less the bad guys will have. A crazy is less likely to afford to buy 10 pistols or search out illegal high capacity clips, than to just go down to the local wal mart and buy what he can.
Yes they can make IEDs, but we ban hand grenades, and regulate high explosives just like we regulate firearms. the more dangerous something is the more is should be regulated or possibly banned.
I'm not sure if banning assault rifles makes any sense. I don't see much difference between a shotgun that holds 5 rounds of 12 gauge where each round is like shooting 9 shots with a pistol, i.e. 45 projectiles shot in under 5 seconds and an assault rifle. However I would think the police would want them banned because of the danger to them in shoot out.
I see the appeal of shooting a fully automatic out in the desert and blowing something to bits. But is it really possible once you allow these weapons to keep them out of the hands of the bad guys?
To me I'm willing to sacrifice my ability to get my hands on very dangerous guns because it means there are less of them around and so less end up in the hands of the crazies and gang bangers.
Seriously why do you need a magazine with over 10 round capacity?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jul 25, 2012 - 10:45am PT
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Seriously why do you need a magazine with over 10 round capacity?
WHY?
Because the NRA and those who support would say you do not want to be "outgunned" in an assault situation
for example: If a bad guy had 20 round clip and you only had a 10 round clip, then by the time you shot your 10 bullets he would have ammo left to kill you (assuming you both fired an equal number of bullets from a starting point)
See, it's quite simple, it all about the bad guys having more ammo than you do
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jul 25, 2012 - 10:53am PT
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Yawn
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Crimpergirl
Sport climber
Boulder, Colorado!
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Jul 25, 2012 - 11:05am PT
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Not surprising to me Ron.
Politicians are political. They politicize things to their advantage. They have one (two?) goals: to gain and maintain power in an elected office. They will do what it takes to accomplish that.
They don't talk about all the 'normal' shootings because there is no political power to be gained by politicizing them. 1,000s of people become homicide victims each year. Few people are aware of the vast majority of them. They are (sadly) normal.
Totally normal and to be expected. Been happening for eons. Don't have to like it, but it's not extraordinary - at least to me.
Just ignore them. :)
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Jul 25, 2012 - 11:22am PT
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I'd wager more people were blugeoned to death last year with tire-irons and the like than were murdered with EBR(evil black rifles).
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jul 25, 2012 - 11:37am PT
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Ron said:
so does anyone else think it dispicable that the various political sides now USE this incident as a political selling point? While the same politicians IGNORE the MANY shootings since the theatre??
Ron, what should those politicians you criticize for IGNORING should be doing?
specifically?
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Jul 25, 2012 - 11:50am PT
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Edit: Norton the SHOULD be doing things to control the UNWANTED and illegal invasion of very violent peoples for one. Not even my own Sheriff is "allowed" to do much of anything other that REACT after the fact. We have a 1000 or more "known gang members" here now..Take these out of the figures and our homicide rates would plummet.
thank you
and my guess is that your sheriff has to wait for a crime to be committed to act
because our constitution says we can't arrest people until they commit a crime
Ron, you seem to suggest law enforcement do what? arrest them before they commit a crime? how should LE be more what you think it should be?
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