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Mighty Hiker

climber

Vancouver, B.C.

Aug 16, 2011 - 10:02pm PT

Not everyone who lives in a 'red' state, and not every banker and corporate 'titan', is a "welfare looting scumbag leaching thief". Let's not stereotype excessively, eh?

Although they all live in that great liberal democratic country, the United States of America. Just read your constitution, in particular your bill of rights. One of the most liberal in the world.

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

mammoth lakes ca

Aug 16, 2011 - 10:38pm PT

Mont Gum Me burns died and didn't take any of his money with him...Yeah , what good is it..? RJ

rottingjohnny

Sport climber

mammoth lakes ca

Aug 16, 2011 - 10:39pm PT

Donald...surely you feign illness..?

Gary

climber

Desolation Basin, Calif.

Aug 16, 2011 - 10:52pm PT

More like conservative revisionism. In 1776 the conservatives fought for the King. When Ben Franklin said we shall all hang together or we will certainly hang separately, the ones who wanted to hang the Founding Fathers were the conservatives.

Why you right wingers claim to be so patriotic is beyond me.

Why do I feel ill right now?

Maybe you're starting to realize the truth, that you've been bamboozled all these years. Sometimes the truth hurts.

bluering

Trad climber

Santa Clara, CA

Aug 16, 2011 - 11:00pm PT

Why you right wingers claim to be so patriotic is beyond me.

It's all about independence from the gov't and freewill. Not reliance on the gov't or a King to fend for us.

We just want the freewill to choose our own path DESPITE the gov't, not because of it.

We want a minimal gov't to serve just basic functions, as designed in the constitution.

The gov't is not intended to be a nanny. But an overseer of justice between the States and to protect the borders against enemies foreign and within. It is to maintain the country. And the peace therein.

TGT

Social climber

So Cal

Aug 16, 2011 - 11:05pm PT

Have you ever read the Federalist Papers Gary?

How about some of the anti federalist papers?

Do you even have a clue?

Gary

climber

Desolation Basin, Calif.

Aug 17, 2011 - 12:49am PT

No, not redefine, but to win it back, Donald. Starting in the '70s Wall Street launched an attack on America and Americans that continues to this day.

They've destroyed our industrial base, broken the worker and are now breaking the middle class, all for short term gain. They are the nihilists. They don't believe in the future.

It's class warfare all right.

JEleazarian

Trad climber

Fresno CA

Aug 17, 2011 - 01:35am PT

Starting in the '70s Wall Street launched an attack on America and Americans that continues to this day.

Gary, are you talking about the 1970's? Are you talking about the Wall Street in New York? If so, our memories differ greatly, or our words don't mean the same things.

The 1970's I remember were the decade of absolute stagnation on Wall Street. The Dow was so low in 1979 that we though if it reached 800, it was a bull market. I remember almost 40% capital gains rates in 1976-77, a carryover basis at death (repealed before it went into effect, since someone figured out that Ouija Boards to find out what the decedent paid might not go over well), confiscatory income and estate tax rates, my first real housing bubble, runaway inflation, enormous interest rates, and awful unemployment -- all with the Watergate Congress, Jerry Clown, Jimmy Carter and the rest of the odious left-wing Democrats in charge.

It was certainly a horrible time for America, but not because of Wall Street.

John

HighTraverse

Trad climber

Bay Area

Aug 17, 2011 - 02:00pm PT

These are the same America -dissers who inhabited the 60s, now they are attempting to re-define traditional America. Laughable and sad.

You spew nothing but vitriol, spite and venom on this and other forums.
Are you a Fox News mouthpiece?
Or an unrepentent John Bircher?
You're certainly not William F Buckley nor even George Will

Gary

climber

Desolation Basin, Calif.

Aug 17, 2011 - 02:04pm PT

Yes, John, the '70s. That's when Wall Street decided the time was ripe to roll back the New Deal. It wasn't hidden, but written up in articles in business sections of the papers. They figured working people were making too good of a living, they could buy a house, send their kids to school, etc.

So it goes.

Elcapinyoazz

Social climber

Joshua Tree

Aug 17, 2011 - 03:18pm PT

could end our country

Where the f$%& is it going to go? Nobody knows, it will just "end".

JEleazarian

Trad climber

Fresno CA

Aug 17, 2011 - 03:49pm PT

DMT,

I was responding to my fellow pianist's allegation that Wall Street started a "war on America" in the 1970's. I did not use Wall Street's health to measure anything else. Gary has since clarified what he meant, viz. that this was the decade when Wall Street started trying to dismantle the New Deal. My own belief is that Wall Street started that in 1933.

John

Gary

climber

Desolation Basin, Calif.

Aug 17, 2011 - 04:08pm PT

My own belief is that Wall Street started that in 1933.

Good point, John.

k-man

Gym climber

SCruz

Aug 17, 2011 - 06:02pm PT

Note that I want my taxes raised to pay for things done by an administration I fundamentally disagreed with and which lied us into a $2 trillion dollar war that wrecked our economy. But regardless how I feel about it, it still has to be paid for. That's how democracy works - you either go along with majority rule, or move someplace else.

jghedge

To which an arrogant DT replies:

Either agree with the Liberal Democrats or get out of the country.

Donald Thompson

Man that guy Donald. Just a powerful wealth of intellect and savvy one-liners. He really has his thumb on the pulse of America, that boy.

Too bad his reading comprehension is at the spot where the Republicans want it: simple confusion of ideas and facts.

bookworm

Social climber

Falls Church, VA

Aug 17, 2011 - 07:45pm PT

jay carney gives a lesson on "creating jobs":

Meckler: I understand why extending unemployment insurance provides relief to people who need it, but how does it create jobs?

Carney: Oh, it is by--I would expect a reporter from The Wall Street Journal would know this as part of the entrance exam just to get on the paper. But the--no, seriously. It is one of the most direct ways to infuse money into the economy because people who are unemployed and obviously aren't earning a paycheck are going to spend the money that they get. They're not going to save it; they're going to spend it. And unemployment insurance, that money goes directly back into the economy dollar for dollar virtually. So it is--and when it goes back in the economy, it means that everywhere that those people--every place that that money is spent has added business. And that creates growth and income for businesses that then lead them to making decisions about job--more hiring.

So there are few other ways that can more directly put money into the economy than providing unemployment insurance.

Meckler: And why since it's been extended have we seen unemployment not drop, in fact?

Carney: Well, look, this is "what would have happened" argument. But we have seen is, what is it, 2.4 million private sector jobs created. And this year there's--I mean, again, this is not just--I encourage you, and I know that you all have good contacts in that world, but economic analysts wholly unaffiliated with this administration would tell you, and told you back late last year, that the combination of the payroll tax cut and extension of unemployment insurance would have a direct, measurable impact on job creation, so that of the jobs created this year, a certain number--however many tens or hundreds of thousands of jobs--can be attributed to those actions taken and pushed by the president last year, which is why he feels so strongly they ought to be done again as we continue to emerge from this recession.

So that's why he believes very strongly we ought to extend the payroll tax and extend unemployment insurance.

Meckler: And is the best argument that you can put forward to people for these things that if we do this again, it won't necessarily get any better, but it won't get any worse--

Carney: Laura, you know that's not how it works.

what does former enron adviser and libs' favorite economist (and 2nd--or is it 3rd--favorite nobel laureate) paul krugman have to say about this?

from his TEXTBOOK on economics:

"public policy designed to help workers who lose their jobs can lead to structural unemployment as an unintended side effect."

healyje

Trad climber

Portland, Oregon

Aug 17, 2011 - 07:49pm PT

With 20% of American children now living below the poverty line - thank god we at least won the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan and are assured the money was well spent.

Hawkeye

climber

State of Mine

Aug 17, 2011 - 09:11pm PT

You libs will love this one, now Letterman is on the death list:

fatty,
you are lucky that they dont read the taco....we would hate to lose you to jihadists....or would we?

Bob D'A

Trad climber

Taos, NM

Aug 17, 2011 - 09:54pm PT

To Donald, bluey and the other tea baggers.

"Did u know: "race car" spelled backwards spells "race car"?..."Eat" is the only word that, if u move the 1st letter to last, it spells its own past tense, "ate"?...& if u rearrange the letters in "Tea Party Republicans" & add a few more letters, u get: Shut the f*#k up u free-loading, progress-blocking, benefit-grabbing, resource-sucking, violent hypocrites,& deal with the fact that u nearly wrecked the country under Bush & that our president is black, so get over it."

From a friend facebook page...classic!