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Douglas Rhiner

Mountain climber
Truckee , CA
Dec 7, 2010 - 11:47am PT
GOOOOOOD!!! Props to Scotland yard and Sweden....

He turned himself in.
Guess SY can't even track down and arrest a fugitive.
Perhaps SY leaders are from Carson City?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Dec 7, 2010 - 12:58pm PT
Interesting take on it.

The comments are even more interesting than the article.

http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/wikileaks-and-u-s-computer-security-the-second-spy-theory/
WBraun

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2010 - 01:23pm PT
So now, Lieberman is instituting a SHIELD Act (Securing Human Intelligence and Enforcing Lawful Dissemination).

Amending the Espionage Act so they can go after Assange and his cronies, in their effort to hinder "our" war efforts.

Our war efforts?

Did you want a war?
WBraun

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2010 - 02:09pm PT
Anonymizers don't work.

The way to do it is:

Well I better not say here .....
Majid_S

Mountain climber
Bay Area , California
Dec 7, 2010 - 02:20pm PT
He turned himself in in UK this morning
dogtown

Trad climber
JackAssVille, Wyoming
Dec 7, 2010 - 02:31pm PT
He’s a cockroach.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 7, 2010 - 02:38pm PT
Boyos, before you tie your wagons to Wikileaks, you want to be SURE you understand exactly what the goals of the organization are.

http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20011106-281.html#ixzz16oQbKE1Q


John Young was one of Wikileaks' early founders.
Cryptome's history of publicizing leaks--while not yielding to pressure to remove them--is what led Young to be invited to join Wikileaks before its launch over three years ago. He also agreed to be the public face of the organization by listing his name on the domain name registration.

"I've never had any desire to overturn governments or do any of these noble things that they want to do."

"I don't want to limit this to Wikileaks, but yes, they're acting like a cult. They're acting like a religion. They're acting like a government."


Citing the leaking of the sorority rituals of Alpha Sigma Tau, Steven Aftergood has opined that WikiLeaks "does not respect the rule of law nor does it honor the rights of individuals." Aftergood went on to state that WikiLeaks engages in unrestrained disclosure of non-governmental secrets without compelling public policy reasons and that many anti-corruption activists were opposed to the site's activities.

In 2010, Amnesty International joined several other human rights groups criticizing WikiLeaks for not adequately redacting the names of Afghan civilians working as U.S. military informants from files they had released.

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 7, 2010 - 02:40pm PT
Very interesting . . .

Editorial written by Julian Assange in The Australian:

http://www.ndtv.com/article/wikileaks%20revelations/editorial-written-by-julian-assange-in-i-the-australian-i-71185
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 7, 2010 - 02:52pm PT
If you think Tor is the way to go:

"One of the WikiLeaks activists owned a server that was being used as a node for the Tor network. Millions of secret transmissions passed through it. The activist noticed that hackers from China were using the network to gather foreign governments’ information, and began to record this traffic."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WikiLeaks

So when you use Tor, you are giving those files to Wikileaks to use as they wish. Makes you wonder what you are doing when you use an encryption program.......
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 7, 2010 - 03:15pm PT
Funny, Dingus. I was going to quote that exact phrase.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Dec 7, 2010 - 03:45pm PT
Makes you wonder what you are doing when you use an encryption program.......

Ken, not quiet sure where you're going with this statement. Tor is not encryption, as you probably know.

When I was learning about encryption and such, my teacher said "there is no encryption that can't be broken. It's just a matter of how much time and resources one is willing to put into breaking the code."

Apparently, JA has a 256-character key locking his "poison pill." Not impossible to break the code, just a lot of resources and time.
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 7, 2010 - 04:51pm PT
TOR links within the network are indeed encrypted, all except the exit node:

http://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en#thesolution

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#WhatprotectionsdoesTorprovide

The node hops are randomized as well, so it is not true that "So when you use Tor, you are giving those files to Wikileaks to use as they wish".

SSL/TLS should also be employed whenever possible to remedy the exit node issue. Files and email should be encrypted with something like PGP/GPG.

As for breaking something as strong as GPG, it's effectively impossible by known methods. Brute force would take years and there are no known holes. If you think that Phil Zimmermann would build something like that in, you don't know much about him. The NSA probably has something up their sleeves to speed a brute force attack (it's rumored that the NSA has their own Fab), but it's much easier and cheaper to install a keylogger on your computer than to try and brute force modern encryption.

Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 7, 2010 - 06:59pm PT
December 7, 2010

The Arrest of Julian Assange
Truth in Chains
By CHRIS FLOYD

London.

http://www.counterpunch.org/floyd12072010.html
WBraun

climber
Topic Author's Reply - Dec 7, 2010 - 07:30pm PT
In an article titled "Only WikiLeaks Can Save US Policy"

Published on the online foreign affairs magazine The Diplomat, former long-time CIA counter-terrorism expert Michael Scheuer said the source of interest in WikiLeaks revelations was in the inherent dishonesty of recent U.S. administrations.

"In recent years, the US public has had to hear its leaders repeatedly tell Americans that black was white," Scheuer wrote, referencing the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama.
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Dec 7, 2010 - 07:42pm PT
TOR links within the network are indeed encrypted, all except the exit node:

http://www.torproject.org/about/overview.html.en#thesolution

https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/TheOnionRouter/TorFAQ#WhatprotectionsdoesTorprovide

The node hops are randomized as well, so it is not true that "So when you use Tor, you are giving those files to Wikileaks to use as they wish".

Assuming, of course, that they are telling the truth.

I'm wondering what you will think, the first time that JA is clearly shown to have lied to the public?
froodish

Social climber
Portland, Oregon
Dec 7, 2010 - 07:52pm PT
Assuming, of course, that they are telling the truth.

I'm wondering what you will think, the first time that JA is clearly shown to have lied to the public?

Who is "they"? You're acting like TOR is a shrink-wrapped product from WL. It's an open source project sponsored by, among others the EFF.

Heck, download the source yourself and have a look:

http://www.torproject.org/dist/tor-0.2.1.27.tar.gz

Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 7, 2010 - 09:51pm PT
This website gives constant updates regarding Wikileaks and all that is happening moment by moment. Very good resource to stay abreast.

Wikileaks will be releasing more cables tonight.


WikiLeaks US embassy cables: live updates

http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/blog/2010/dec/07/wikileaks-us-embassy-cables-live-updates?CMP=twt_gu
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 7, 2010 - 10:07pm PT
From the constant stream of updates . . .


5.30pm: With perfect timing an email arrives from Philip Crowley at the state department:

The United States is pleased to announce that it will host Unesco's World Press Freedom Day event in 2011, from 1-3 May in Washington, DC.

Ironic? Read the next paragraph from the press release:

The theme for next year's commemoration will be 21st Century Media: New Frontiers, New Barriers. The United States places technology and innovation at the forefront of its diplomatic and development efforts. New media has empowered citizens around the world to report on their circumstances, express opinions on world events, and exchange information in environments sometimes hostile to such exercises of individuals' right to freedom of expression. At the same time, we are concerned about the determination of some governments to censor and silence individuals, and to restrict the free flow of information. We mark events such as World Press Freedom Day in the context of our enduring commitment to support and expand press freedom and the free flow of information in this digital age.

Shameless. You really could not make it up.



BaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaHHHHHaaaaaaaaaaaaaHHHHhhhhhaaaaaaaaaa.

Yea right.

The United States of Hypocrisy.
Klimmer

Mountain climber
San Diego
Dec 7, 2010 - 10:39pm PT
Julian Assange Captured by World's Dating Police
By Naomi Wolf
Posted: December 7, 2010 09:40 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/interpol-the-worlds-datin_b_793033.html


The Wikileaks sex files: How two one-night stands sparked a worldwide hunt for Julian Assange
By Richard Pendlebury
Last updated at 10:44 AM on 7th December 2010


Read more:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1336291/Wikileaks-Julian-Assanges-2-night-stands-spark-worldwide-hunt.html#ixzz17UNSN0jF



Well there you go. And now we know these Swedish rape charges are bogus.
Mimi

climber
Dec 8, 2010 - 12:02am PT
"repeatedly tell Americans that black was white"

And all of those voluntarily stupid Americans took it all hook, line and sinker? I love it when politicians/pundits both praise the intelligence of the public while assuming otherwise. It's so ego driven afterall at the highest levels. People know what's going on for the most part, they just don't give a crap anymore.
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