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Waah!
climber
Idaho falls
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RokJox, you go on and on and on with verbal dissentary, drizzling the Internet with ignorant sh#t.
You're an idiot. A bully. A dick. A biggot. And a cry baby.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2010 - 02:00am PT
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If I could just get everyone on ST to watch this one DVD/video, then everyone would know so much more regarding the UFO/Alien phenomenon.
"Out of the Blue" is perhaps the best UFO documentary out there really. It is awesome. Disclosure has already happened, but few are listening or paying attention.
Out of the Blue
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5545276251937701731#
The US Government would like to somehow put the Genie back in the bottle, but it is not going to happen. The US Government is by far the worst in regards to the massive cover-up. They are absolutely involved and deeply, deeply involved.
Just ask the residents of Rosewell that were threatened with their lives who know exactly what they witnessed and the materials they touched and collected. This is all well documented.
The behavior of our Government screams cover-up. The UFO/Alien cover-up is way beyond anything else that our government has ever covered up. It makes 9-11 or anything else our government has hidden seem like child's play. The black budget that is involved is off the scale (trillions of dollars). Our government has been heavily involved in back-engineering, and has been very successful at doing so.
There is a secret astronaut corp. Just ask the British Citizen Gary McKinnon http://freegary.org.uk/ , whom our government is right now trying to extradite to the US. He hacked into the Pentagon looking for data regarding the UFO phenomenon, and accidently bumped into a secret classified list of all the US off-world secret astronaut corp. as well as images of UFOs.
Song regarding Free Gary McKinnon, Chicago feat David Gilmour, Sir Bob Geldof & Chrissie Hynde -- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LEcrryZ3ss
To sit around and argue the physics about whether it is possible is really silly. Sure I would like to know the entire technology, the physics of anti-gravity and how exactly it works. How are these incredible speeds achieved through Space/Time? But the point is they are doing it. Those who are deeply involved in official disclosure know the truth. Our secret government has back-engineered Alien technology and there really is an Area 51. Many UFO sightings are more than likely our very own back engineered spacecraft. It is real. To sit back and say differently is really at this time with all the eye-witnesses, and those who have come out from the inside who were once involved deeply and are now disclosing perhaps to clear their conscience before they meet their maker, is ignorant.
History Channel - UFO Hunters - Area 51 Revealed 1/5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGOopaxooWs
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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^^^^^^^^^^
What Ed said.
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LithiumMetalman
Trad climber
cesspool central
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how do you shield a computer?
this is really difficult, the computers are in this radiation field too, and if you try to put more shielding you can make even more radiation... one limit to high performance computing on the surface of the earth is the radiation produced by cosmic rays interacting with the material in the package around the integrated circuits. Single Event Upsets can latchup some logic circuits in the very benign environment that we live in....
...the computers would not survive the radiation field at high speed either.
more on SEUs here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_event_upset
Actually my old housemate was working with this exact problem at Lawrence Livermore Labs.
Tha answer is to use fiber optics and use photons (aka. photonic computer)instead of traditional electric currents.
Please correct me if I am mistaken, but from what I understood, the purpose of using photons is that it was not affected by radiation but rather by gravity as opposed to traditional electrical currents, which are affected by radiation.
Remarkably, last time we spoke, he said they had succeeded in not only creating a working model where one strand could contain all the information found on tv, movies, shows, radio, and large portions of the web, but that they were also trying to work on a self-contained power unit as well.
The reason was that in case any electronic equipment was to lose power or was affected the fiber optic photonic computer would continue to run regardless of the dire conditions.
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WBraun
climber
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You do not travel the universe in a material body. It's too slow and you'll never make it.
Modern science is cave man style, backwards.
Real science travels the universe in their astral body.
Modern science is backwards very very crude. Cave men!
Some day modern science will wake up from their sleep.
428,000 more years to go before modern science even begins to wake up ........
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Werner, done any climbing in Markarian's Chain lately?
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WBraun
climber
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Markarian's Chain is absolutely nothing compared to the real Mt. Meru.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Kimmer, so it's your conjecture that all sorts of advanced civilizations have been and continue visiting the Earth on a regular basis?
That's quite a claim given the knowledge, technology, and energy they'd all have to master. Amazing that all those civilizations could find us, launch intersteller, time traveling crafts our way - and visit on a very regular basis. All without so much a single stop at, oh say the Capital Mall.
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dirtbag
climber
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A music interlude to calm the storm . . .
Good stuff.
Hadn't heard the Carpenter's song in so many years that the lyrics were completely mangled in my head.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2010 - 10:00am PT
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Kimmer, so it's your conjecture that all sorts of advanced civilizations have been and continue visiting the Earth on a regular basis?
That's quite a claim given the knowledge, technology, and energy they'd all have to master. Amazing that all those civilizations could find us, launch intersteller, time traveling crafts our way - and visit on a very regular basis. All without so much a single stop at, oh say the Capital Mall.
It is not my conjecture alone. Watch completely Dr. Greer's Disclosure Project. Watch completely, Out of the Blue. Many people from inside our secret government that exists from adminsitration to administration regardless who is TPOTUS, are coming out and saying so. They are saying exactly what has been going on behind the scenes for what they have been privy to, and what they have been involved with. Like I said, they want a clear conscience before they pass away and meet their maker. I appluad them. Yes, it pisses off the powers that be. Disclosure is happening. How long will the illusion go on for? People around the world are waking up big time.
Our secret Military-Industrial-Spy complex has been involved in this and back engineering the technology for a very long time. To denie this, is too denie all the testimony from so many credible people who are putting their lives on the line. But when some of these people get up in age, after retirement, what do they have to lose? What are the powers that be gonna do? Kill them for speaking out? Rendition them to Gitmo? Torture them? Their life here on Earth is already coming to an end and they know it. Some get brave in their old age.
Do you not know about the massive UFO sighting over our Nations Capital in the 1940s/50s? Watch Out of the Blue.
Many are coming clean. It is about time.
Now as a scientist/science teacher, I have to fit all of this into my reality and ask how does it all work? Not that I'm going to talk about this with my students. I don't. But for my understanding and for my sanity, I have to try to fit this into my understanding of physics. Yes, it gives me great pause to ask how can ETs/UFOs/Aliens/EBEs do this? How can they do this with what we know to be the rules of the Universe? It gives me great pause. But they are doing it!
As a Christian, I believe that GOD exists and he is who he says he is. The Good Book says GOD is light. So perhaps he takes on the form of light. Time travel and going places at the speed of light is solved. We know that light has this ability, thanks to Einstein's Special Relativity and General Relativity. SR: At the speed of light, length shrinks to zero, and time stands still. I also believe in the Heavenly Hosts, Angels. The Bible describes these beings as having the ability to morph from one form to another. The Good book says many have entertained Angels unaware that they were doing so. Perhaps they are also light, or can take that form. Again the ability to travel at the speed of light from one place to another and stoppiing time from their perspective is then solved.
Physical creatures such as Nephilim, seem to have extraordinary intelligence and physical abilities, but are physical. I never said they could travel throughout the Universe from one star to another. I do not know. But to go from Earth to the Moon in a massive craft?, perhaps so. We have many times in the Apollo space program. To travel throughout our Solar System is perhaps very easy for them to do. Remember I said they were Intra-terrestrials and not Extra-terrstrials.
The Human Race here on Earth has a Hidden History. There is just too much that is coming out that the Archeology, Anthropology, and perhaps the paleontology worlds are bumping into that just does not fit our pre-conceived "nice" models. So it is ignored publically, but privately???
(Yet, amazingly, many professionals do indeed ingnore all of this evidence. Perhaps its because there is professional pressure to do so. It is nice to have a job and make a living. Ask questions, go beyond the established official line, the established official theories, and your job is in jeopardy. Are we so afraid of knowledge and the truth to let this happen?)
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pedge
Trad climber
SW
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God is limited to travel at the speed of light? The author of existence itself and all matter and energy subject to the condition of being or nonbeing can only be in one place at one time and has to move back and forth at the speed of light? God is located somewhere within the time and space universe he created?
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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428,000 more years to go before modern science even begins to wake up
At that time, they might just call the 20th century the year of enlightenment where man finally stopped buying into mythology and started to look at things with open eyes.
Oh, sorry. They will look back at this time and say, "What were they thinking with all that mythological crap and superstition based on crude emotional responses to anything they couldn't explain. What a bunch of cave-people."
I guess I agree that we are like cavemen but disagree that it is the scientists who are in the caves. The scientists are trying to get out of the caves and there seem to be idiots who just seem to want to stay inside because of fear of change.
Dave
P.S. To say that we are scientifically like cavemen and then go on to make claims about how we can and can't travel the universe is a bit hypocritical. If we are like cavemen then we can't know or imagine where we might be or how we might get there in the future. Even the enlightened sounding of us can't know or even imagine it since an enlightened caveman is still a caveman.
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rectorsquid
climber
Lake Tahoe
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Religionists aren't fools. Anybody who can convince themselves that there ISN'T a God, can convince themselves there IS one.
Any scientists who claims that there is no God is not a scientist and is an ass. A true scientist would, at best, suggest a possible probability of it and admit that a complete lack of testable information makes it impossible to tell if there is or is not a God.
I am an atheist but only in the sense that I do not follow nor worship any God or accept any mythology. I only suspect, based on my interpretation of the evidence, that there is no God, but have no way to know for sure.
The probability is so low scientifically that believing (not knowing) that there is no God makes some amount of sense and is not the same as believing that there is one using that same evidence.
Dave
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Ed Hartouni
Trad climber
Livermore, CA
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how is it that there is no evidence, other than personal witness, of the existence of UFOs?
it cannot be true that all of the physical evidence has been collected and impounded.
witnessing can be compelling, convincing, genuine, but utterly wrong...
...as I'm sure it is in the cases purported to be "true" in the links above.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2010 - 03:08pm PT
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Ed,
Would you watch Dr. Greer's The Disclosure Project, and also Out of the Blue?
These are very credible former government, military etc. witnesses. They go into how the government hides this stuff and why. Although there is no reason too unless one subscribes to the secret government's warped, bent immoral, unethical, and illegal frame of mind.
You (we) are not on a need to know basis. We are treated as cannon fodder, fools, and kept in the dark regarding many, many things.
It is a repeating and ancient story: the very rich powerful elite oligarchy vs. the sheeple, the serfs, the common man.
They do indeed hide this stuff. They do indeed threaten lives and people have been killed to keep them silent.
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Douglas Rhiner
Mountain climber
Good question?!?!?!?!?
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You (we) are not on a need to know basis. We are treated as cannon fodder, fools, and kept in the dark regarding many, many things.
This does not just apply to governments but religions as well.
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Klimmer, et al: You should read "Voodoo Histories", by David Aaronovitch. It's even better than the Klimmer Kode.
I'd suggest that you apply Occam's Razor, but you'd probably cut yourselves.
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Klimmer
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Topic Author's Reply - May 6, 2010 - 03:22pm PT
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DR,
Agree. It isn't right.
Copernicus, Galileo, et al. know too well.
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Port
Trad climber
San Diego
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There have been two hypotheses proposed.
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a.) Aliens exist
b.) They have visited earth
c.) They have been witnessed
d.) There is a giant arc/spaceship on the moon
e.) There may also be a dome on the moon
f.) There is a conspiracy within the government to keep this information secret
g.) There is a "shadow" government which really makes all the decisions
h.) Biblical stories tell of these Aliens
i.) With the correct interpretation of the bible we can know the truth.
j.) klimmer, and a few others, have discovered the truth
h.) One can do the same by gathering information on youtube.com and reading the bible.
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a.) If Aliens exist, they would never bother coming to earth
b.) Long distance space travel is unlikely given physical constraints ( the human being is an entirely physical being...yes, we know you disagree Werner)
c.) Klimmer is interpreting random events, such as shapes on the moon, as highly meaningful
d.) Aliens have never visited earth
e.) people who have seen them are genuine in their belief, but have interpreted these events incorrectly
f.) There is no shadow government
g.) In order to conclude that aliens have visited us, we need more data and information than is available on youtube.com
h.) interpreting the bible is like interpreting a weegie board, meaning that is says more about the person doing it than about anything else.
i.) Conspiracy theorist generally have an aggrandized view of their knowledge about the world.
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