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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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May 18, 2016 - 10:55am PT
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crankster
Trad climber
No. Tahoe
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May 18, 2016 - 11:30am PT
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That write-in idea is one of the most foolish and irresponsible ideas I've ever seen.
Butt hurt crybabies.
He should have had the guts to run as an independent.
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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May 18, 2016 - 11:32am PT
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Yes! Write in Bernie. If supporting Bernie the socialist is what your gut tells you to do, by all means - write him in.
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dirtbag
climber
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May 18, 2016 - 11:40am PT
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Me too Locker.
She has more votes, and he is about to lose. It's that simple. It isn't very complicated, unlike the republican primaries where there are wildly different rules in each state resulting in weird outcomes.
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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May 18, 2016 - 12:02pm PT
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I'm ready for him to go away...
So are you a dem super-delegate?
if so Im sure you want him to get lost....
Same as in the Republican party..... the "party people really DO know what is best" for their members, even if most of the members don't think so.
Democrat insiders/Republican insiders = a dying breed.
Time for new blood.
go Bernie go....
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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May 18, 2016 - 12:06pm PT
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She has more votes, and he is about to lose. It's that simple.
No its not that "SIMPLE".... the Dems have a rigged system also.
and no its not just a "he knew the RULES" he should stop complaining ....
Rosa Parks knew the "RULES" and she sat down in the first row anyway.
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dirtbag
climber
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May 18, 2016 - 12:15pm PT
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Well gee Guyman, she does have more votes. But because Hillary, that really gets your goat.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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May 18, 2016 - 12:35pm PT
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Hillary should just pick Bernie as her running mate. That would make the "no vote for Hillary" Bernie supporters even more confused than they already are.
Curt
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Sterner
Boulder climber
Topanga, CA
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May 18, 2016 - 01:00pm PT
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Its weird to me to see climbers that aren't into a Sanders Presidency. He's the only candidate that has any guts on tackling climate change. Hotter temps=Greasier holds.
Democratic Socialism, a system we all take part in and enjoy benefits of which led to the creation of The National Park system, creating and sustaining access to um maybe most of the best climbing we have in the US.
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NutAgain!
Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
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May 18, 2016 - 01:17pm PT
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I guess by offering any explanation or attempt at empathy it can be construed as somewhat sanctioning the violent response. That is not my intent at all. And yes Dingus, I think the vast majority of people who succumb to committing violent acts are doing so because of not knowing a better way to manage their feelings. That doesn't make it ok, but it opens an effective pathway for how to understand and deal with the contagious disease of violence, rather than combatting it with equally harsh opposition that causes the violence to spread.
Violence is a more multi-faceted issue and I only speak of one facet... sometimes there are people with premeditated intent to do ill, or with a callous disregard of the consequences on other people when they use violence as part of a strategy to get something else they care more about. That type of violence does need to be confronted and stopped with opposing violence if necessary. Some people, when you try to act reasonable or give an inch in your position, they just move the battlefront closer to you and continue with more of the same, no appeasement possible.
In any case- for me this campaign has never been about a popularity contest or a trial of personalities. It is about issues that I care about, about the way that I think our society should be be organized for the long term well-being of the most people, for the long term structure of our civilization that supports more people contributing the positive stuff they have contribute to make our collective lives better.
Bernie is the leading voice for the set of values I believe in, and it seems that people like to get fixated on the cult of personality at the expense of the issues that led to the rise of the personality. That mob dynamic is playing into Hillary's favor, where she seems to be the safe middle-ground choice and Bernie is being cast more as a fringe person. If one were to look just at the life consequences for each person and who benefits, Hillary is more fringe in terms of supporting a small minority of fringe rich people at the expense of the majority who suffer in terms of corporate power influencing federal politics and creating a financial climate that is not supportive of growing our economy in an inclusive way. That said, it is all relative. Hillary is still better than a Republican alternative given the current Republican platform, but it just maintains the status quo of eroding personal quality of life as corporate power increases.
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Curt
climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
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May 18, 2016 - 01:24pm PT
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Its weird to me to see climbers that aren't into a Sanders Presidency. He's the only candidate that has any guts on tackling climate change. Hotter temps=Greasier holds.
Democratic Socialism, a system we all take part in and enjoy benefits of which led to the creation of The National Park system, creating and sustaining access to um maybe most of the best climbing we have in the US.
Bernie was my first choice and I voted for him in the AZ primary. But, he is NOT going to win the Democratic nomination and he is therefore NOT going to become president. Being idealistic is wonderful, but when idealism is unfettered by reality it stops being useful.
Curt
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 18, 2016 - 01:27pm PT
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Democratic Socialism, a system we all take part in and enjoy benefits of which led to the creation of The National Park system
I guess this is now the go-to example of revisionist history. So now we
have to think of Abraham Lincoln as a socialist? That's gonna take me
a while to get my head around.
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dirtbag
climber
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May 18, 2016 - 01:38pm PT
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Bernie going rogue will only hurt down ballot democrats, further stifling real change.
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Norton
Social climber
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May 18, 2016 - 01:41pm PT
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"Ready For Bernie?"...
I'm ready for him to go away...
me too, i have had enough of his constantly repetitive talking points over and over
five more months of this crap, wish we could vote right now
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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May 18, 2016 - 01:46pm PT
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Frank (aka Guyman)...
You're in support of Bernie Sanders???...
Locker... I have said all along. Anybody except a BUSH or a CLINTON....
If we get Trump vs Sanders.... I will listen to what they say during the general and make up my mind on election day.
I will say this, Bernie is the most honest, down to earth, working class person running. This is very different from most of the elections I have had the opportunity to participate in.
Another thing in his favor with me.... he is not running around looking to kill the 2nd amendment, like Hillery and most of the mainstream democratic insiders.
I can't wait for California to vote.
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Norton
Social climber
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May 18, 2016 - 02:23pm PT
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Another thing in his favor with me.... he is not running around looking to kill the 2nd amendment, like Hillery and most of the mainstream democratic insiders.
calling for expanded background checks to potentially thwart impulsive murder is hardly "killing the second amendment", while a Republican Ronald Reagan signed into law the Brady Bill - the most restrictive gun legislation
truth be told, it took a Democratic President, Barack Obama, to be the first US President to actually expand gun ownership "rights"
fact: as a Concealed Carry gun owner I can now carry on Amtrak trains which I do very occasionally, and I can also now carry legally in the National Parks in my state
both of the above were signed into law by President Obama, and in fact nothing was passed to benefit gun owners during the entire 8 year Republican Bush Administration
action, not BS talking points, is what is meaningful
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Escopeta
Trad climber
Idaho
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May 18, 2016 - 02:31pm PT
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You mean other than the assault weapons ban not being renewed during Bush's term of course I'm sure. You may have just forgotten that part.
You remember, that gun ban signed by someone with the last name of Clinton.
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Sierra Ledge Rat
Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
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May 18, 2016 - 03:08pm PT
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Give me the status quo....
Give me candidate that the party bosses have chosen...
I'm voting for either Trump or Clinton....
I'm brain dead anyway, so it doesn't matter....
Polls are now showing Trump and Hillary roughly neck and neck if the election were held today.
Polls also show Sanders beating Trump by a good margin if the election were held today.
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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May 18, 2016 - 04:51pm PT
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Bernie's determined to hang in there until he gets Nicolas Maduro's endorsement which
both think will be a symbiotic salvation.
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John Duffield
Mountain climber
New York
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May 18, 2016 - 04:58pm PT
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You look at the sum total of what he is putting out now, you have to assume he is getting ready to run as an Independent. Calls for the DNC Chair to resign? Sounds like a demand. I think I heard he can still do that in 48 states. But he might not do it now. I can't remember an election like this.
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