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the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
Mar 8, 2016 - 12:49pm PT
"why do the Repubs get their people to the polls in mid terms in significantly higher numbers than Democrats?"...

It's demographics not the parties getting the people to the polls.

The GOP has a large proportion of older people who make a point to vote in every election. It's like saying gee, I wonder why this bingo parlor is full of old white people?
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 8, 2016 - 12:50pm PT
It appears some of the partisans here have their rote objections and rhetoric tuned in to refuting the Republican Party line but when someone espouses a call for something other than the continued march of big government and reduced individual liberty, you get all flustered. Then claim troll which seems to be the standard ST replacement for "I don't have an answer, so I'll just call you a troll and feel better about myself"
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 8, 2016 - 01:07pm PT
is that what you are doing?

No. I'm actually just jerking your chain. Seems appropriate.


... but when someone espouses a call for something other than the continued march of big government and reduced individual liberty, you get all flustered.

Is that what you're doing? (LOL)



When people stop believing in FAIRY TALES...

Locker, don't you dare try to convince me that the Tooth Fairy isn't Scarlet Johansson dressed in a pink tutu.
I only have one tooth left, and I know I'm gonna catch her with this one.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 8, 2016 - 02:12pm PT
Puds American System

If you don't like how America is going down the tubes, don't fix it, just get the fuk out.

His other system after the first; You can stay in America only if you ....

STFU and remain a quiet sterile robot and do as you're told.

Pud the closet fascist .....

So much anger.
No peace in the valley?
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 8, 2016 - 02:26pm PT
Personally, I've only decided who I won't vote for. Clinton for her general dishonesty, Cruz because he's controlled by his "fear of god", Sanders because he says what he thinks people want to hear and Rubio because he has no presence.

Trump is scary because of his reactionary attitude but will be much like Shwartzenegger when he landed the California governorship.
Full of ideas that get shut down by the reality of the situation and somewhat level headed administrations, thus limiting his "power" to react.

I'd vote for Werner if he'd run. Sounds like he's a doer.

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Mar 8, 2016 - 02:39pm PT
Trump is scary because of his reactionary attitude but will be much like Shwartzenegger when he landed the California governorship.

Trump is like Shwartzenegger? Good god.


For one, Shwartzenegger acknowledges that climate change is caused by humans. In other words, at least Shwartzenegger operated in reality.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Mar 8, 2016 - 04:32pm PT
Hit me with your next freedom litmus test.

I'll play.

What do you think Khris Kristofferson meant when he wrote "Freedom's just another word for nothin' left to lose," and how does that equate with your definition of the word "freedom?"

I'm not sure what a "donald Trump type" is but I'm guessing it's anyone with a perspective different than yours.
What I meant by "Donald Trump type" is the kind pf person who uses ad hominen attacks, and who responds to debate by obfuscating.

EDIT: I was just looking at Trumps' Twitter feed, and he has another post about how his campaign is self-funded

As has been written by others, he has actually loaned his campaign the money, and it is being repaid out of donations to the campaign. Someone said "yeah but unsolicited donations won't make up what he is spending."

Maybe, maybe not. I have no idea. But what occurred to me is that he will write off any portion of "the loan" that isn't repaid on his 2016 taxes. I would love to see some journalist take up that topic with him....

If he said(which he did, although I am paraphrasing) that his bankruptcies were just a businessman taking advantage of US laws, what in hell would stop him from writing off his presidential campaign costs?????
TradEddie

Trad climber
Philadelphia, PA
Mar 8, 2016 - 05:19pm PT
Hit me with your next freedom litmus test.

At what time since 1776 do you believe the entire population of the United States (not just educated, white, christian, heterosexual males) was most free?

Do you honestly believe President Trump will do a single thing to bring us closer to that mythological time?

TE
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Mar 8, 2016 - 06:10pm PT

As has been written by others, he has actually loaned his campaign the money, and it is being repaid out of donations to the campaign

Borderline money laundering.
Norton

Social climber
Mar 8, 2016 - 06:35pm PT
Norton, I know there's little we agree on but, can you give me a better reason your party currently seems to rally against the GOP only on social media?

well Pud, not being involved in political planning on any level, I don't know

I don't what your point is, are you saying Republicans don't use social media?

no that can't be it, not hard to use and all, lots of it on twitter, face book, etc

or are you talking about the conservative dominance of radio and cable news?

Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Mar 8, 2016 - 07:10pm PT
Is there something other than social media we should be using to get the message out - PUD?
Gary

Social climber
Where in the hell is Major Kong?
Mar 8, 2016 - 07:39pm PT
DMT:
I hate those 'let's pretend all Americans are stupid' videos. Goddamned liars.

See, this guy went out of his way to make people look stupid. Probably asked hundreds to get those few. He and his viewers have to make other people look bad to make themselves feel good.

Huell Howser went out of his way to make people look good, because that made him and his viewers feel good.
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Ken M

Mountain climber
Los Angeles, Ca
Mar 8, 2016 - 08:58pm PT
Donald again, for the wins. The lead grows.

Faint Republican hearts flutter......
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Mar 8, 2016 - 09:48pm PT
Cruz won in Idontknow. The most Republican state in the U.S., thanks to all the conservative Californicators that have moved here.

Looking at the Idaho map of county voting returns, the east Idaho Mormons voted as a bloc for him.

How strange.

Escopeta will be excited to learn someone that hates America and wants to turn OUR public lands over to private owners, is favored by his brethen.
Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Mar 9, 2016 - 06:04am PT
So I'm reading the book "The Appeal" by John Grisham, and the plot at this point involves corporate interests "replacing" a state Supreme Court Justice who would be unlikely to side with the corporation when a case on appeal is presented to the court. The company is spending large amounts of cash to make sure a "more attractive" judge takes the upcoming election...

But a twist seems to be emerging at the point I am just now reading. For some reason, "the bad guys" have paid off a third person to run in this election. Originally, they told "more attractive" candidate that he would sneak into the race at the last minute and take the incumbent by surprise.

This third guy is a wild card - loud, abrasive, obnoxious. But charming in his way, like a spectacular car crash involving a brawny muscle car being driven hard by an idiot with no respect for it's beauty.

I don't know how the story plays out, but it says he is there as a distraction.

Reading it I thought "Is Trump the third, distracting, guy?" This has, of course been the contention of many already.Mostly that he is there to help Hillary preside in the end.

So...maybe those who have already read "The Appeal" can offer their insight: If our presidential election goes the way the Supreme Court one did in the book, what happens? It won't ruin my enjoyment of the book, as I read more for enjoying the wordsmithing and imagery, and knowing the end or a plot twist won't affect that.



Winemaker

Sport climber
Yakima, WA
Mar 9, 2016 - 07:22am PT
Wow!!!!! I sure ain't votin' for Hillary Obama after this:

"In a bombshell world exclusive, The National ENQUIRER has learned that U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia’s death was a highly planned “political assassination” orchestrated by the CIA and carried out by a $2,000-a-night hooker! A top Washington, D.C. source said the Feb. 13 death of the 79-year-old jurist at a remote Texas ranch just 15 miles from Mexico was part of a “shocking conspiracy that tracks back to the CIA and the White House!"
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 9, 2016 - 07:25am PT
Jim posted
Why no one is going for Trump's throat over being a supposed personal bankrupt is because of the 2 basic forms of establishing a business.


People have brought this up over and over again on the stump, in ads and in the debates. Nobody cares.
pud

climber
Sportbikeville & Yucca brevifolia
Mar 9, 2016 - 07:29am PT
Is there something other than social media we should be using to get the message out - PUD?

Show up at the polls?


The world will end and the sky will turn black when Trump is elected. The waters will boil and the winds will stop. The birds will fall and the fish will float. Our skin will fall off and our eyes will implode. The boogie man is coming, get your night lights and your blankies ready.
Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 9, 2016 - 07:43am PT
So you guilt-ridden Calvinists masquerading as deep-thinking iconoclasts seem to think that
filing bankruptcy is a moral failing only one step removed from pederasty. Henry Ford went
bankrupt four or five times before he got it right. And I would think someone who has gone
bankrupt would be eminently suited to run a country that is in hock up to its eyeballs.
HighDesertDJ

Trad climber
Mar 9, 2016 - 07:50am PT
Reilley posted
Henry Ford went
bankrupt four or five times before he got it right.

Also: really hated Jews. Coincidence?
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