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Gary
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Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Oct 29, 2014 - 10:05am PT
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Nice rationalizing there, Ron.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 29, 2014 - 10:08am PT
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Police state?
They see breaking the fuking law. For decades. And, had been threatening the BLM. Who should the BLM have called in? Brownies?
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Oct 29, 2014 - 11:20am PT
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Ron, can you cite any statistics that show that undocumented workers (which, btw, would not be here if there was not a demand for their services) are responsible for a higher % of violent crime per capita than US citizens? If not, then all your babble about illegals being dangerous must be BS and motivated by the fact that you are a bigot.
That aside, it seems to me that in one breath you bemoan the BLM and its $4m roundup and use of excessive force, but on the other hand deride the "liberals" concern over the US becoming a police state. It seems to me that your point is as long as the police are not bothering YOU and others that think like you, they can do whatever they want. But when the police (or BLM) do something you don't like, then they are fascist thugs. Do you see any lack of logic in you position?
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 29, 2014 - 11:50am PT
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How the heck do you kick someone out of a protest anyway?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Oct 29, 2014 - 11:58am PT
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In fact some 550,000 of them belong to the most vile criminal gang members on the planet.
AARP?
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 29, 2014 - 12:08pm PT
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Sources (links),Ron?
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Oct 29, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
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Again, Ron, can you cite any statistics that show that undocumented workers (which, btw, would not be here if there was not a demand for their services) are responsible for a higher % of violent crime per capita than US citizens? Data. Facts. Not sensationalist articles with pictures of thugs and a few numbers that actually tell us very little about the big picture.
Again, can you provide data to show the per capita % of illegals vs domestic offenders.
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johnboy
Trad climber
Can't get here from there
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Oct 29, 2014 - 12:30pm PT
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Please make me safer and spend more money Mr. Big Government.
Why don't you ask your house representatives to put pressure
on Boehner to let the immigration reform legislation come to a vote? It passed on a bipartisan senate vote and has been stalled in the house for months.
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 29, 2014 - 12:34pm PT
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Once again, Ron provided objective sources to back up his baloney, lol.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 29, 2014 - 12:34pm PT
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You kind of have to be polite here: when you know everyone is carrying a firearm they are more than willing to use on an impolite person.
 Great Ideals on display...
Be polite on penalty of death...
The American Way
Further reading of discussion:
hashbro
Trad climber
Mental Physics........
Oct 29, 2014 - 09:41am PT
If (when) a standoff had involved a group of unarmed enviros opposing federal logging (or perhaps bidding on gas leases in the Rockies), they would have been jailed and prosecuted immediately. Instead the BLM is so intimidated by armed thugs like the Bundys, they don;'t list a finger and tacitly approve of such threats of violence (and rippoff on taxpayers on federal grazing) by looking the other way.
Absolutely ironic and sickening!
Agree
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ncrockclimber
climber
The Desert Oven
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Oct 29, 2014 - 12:54pm PT
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Here is my point. You have provided NO evidence that undocumented workers are more likely to commit violent crimes than US citizens. Not one of the articles you linked to provides information that shows that. Not one. There is a lot of inflammatory stuff (numbers, pictures, words), but not a shred of data showing that undocumented workers are more likely to commit violent crimes than US citizens. Show me those statistics, please.
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Gary
Social climber
Desolation Basin, Calif.
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Oct 29, 2014 - 01:44pm PT
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"Facts are stupid things." -- Ronald Reagan
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 29, 2014 - 01:53pm PT
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It's funny watching Ron get butthurt when someone questions the veracity of the right wing propaganda he presents as objective "Sources." Lol.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 29, 2014 - 04:57pm PT
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Glad I could keep everybody on topic....
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 29, 2014 - 05:29pm PT
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You guys are the ones all pussy butt hurt because a redneck told ya all to fuk off and eat sh!t.
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Jon Beck
Trad climber
Oceanside
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Oct 29, 2014 - 05:29pm PT
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Rons first link was Judicial Watch, founded by Leisure Suit Larry Klayman, google that POS and see how reliable they are. I quit reading after Judicial Watch
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WBraun
climber
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Oct 29, 2014 - 05:51pm PT
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Now, tell me again about who is butthurt?
You are !!!!!
I told you, YOU are, and now you're butt hurt and ran away like a little girl.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Oct 29, 2014 - 06:20pm PT
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You have provided NO evidence that undocumented workers are more likely to commit violent crimes than US citizens. Not one of the articles you linked to provides information that shows that. Not one.
effectively the subject was changed once Ron re-entered the thread....
Immigration became an issue and he's been stuck on that ever since...
funny to watch
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dirtbag
climber
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Oct 29, 2014 - 06:43pm PT
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Because the content is probablty sheet and spin too, Ron.
You also think anecdotes from your hunting buddies passes as credible evidence. (Hint, it does not.)
But you have no idea what a credible source is. That much is clear.
But hey, white folk like Bundy are good people...
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