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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 21, 2017 - 08:22pm PT
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Being able to plug into a block heater is 5 star luxury.
Where I grew up (the Canadian prairie), it was a basic necessity. No block heater? Then no drive.
The real deal is running your jetboil in contact with your heater pan for 45 minutes while doing jumping jacks when you get back to the trail head after a 16 hour day on some 2500’ north buttress of some choss heap.
Or after a January week way up in the Canadian Rockies. Same deal. Car won't start? No worries, it's a Subaru with a metal skid plate under the oil sump. Just set the MSR stove under that, and come back in 45 minutes.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Nov 21, 2017 - 08:29pm PT
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Ya bra... eh?
Sorry about the thread drift. Back to the topic at hand.
Trump can suck the shriveled limp thing hanging out of Reilly’s pants.
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Norton
climber
The Wastelands
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Nov 21, 2017 - 08:42pm PT
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oh no
somebody went quiet
got your liddle feelings hurt, huh boo boo? come on back
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Nov 21, 2017 - 09:39pm PT
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You retards! The checks aren't drawn on what's in the ground, they're based
on what comes through the bloody pipe. Is that accounting too difficult?
With less than half of what used to come through and with twice as many
freeloaders getting checks based on oil at half price even a Democrat can
do that math.
And BTW even if Trump OK's drilling in the ANWR that couldn't possible start
producing for at least 6 years by which time the Democrats will have been
back in power for at least 3 years, i.e., put a sock in that pipe.
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F
climber
away from the ground
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Nov 21, 2017 - 10:01pm PT
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 21, 2017 - 09:39pm PT
You retards! The checks aren't drawn on what's in the ground, they're based
on what comes through the bloody pipe. Is that accounting too difficult?
No, Retard, it’s based on the earnings of the fund that are invested in the stock market. The amount of oil coming through the pipeline on a yearly basis has no effect on the amount of the dividend. Is that accounting too difficult to understand?
The state .gov operating budget is affected by the amount of oil flowing yearly. NOT the permanant Fund.
Keep talking. Your limp di ck is still hanging out of your pants.
Jesus. Just admit you have no idea what you’re talking about and change the subject to something you actually know something about. Like having your life subsidized by your wife.
The amount of each payment is based upon a five-year average of the Permanent Fund's performance and varies widely depending on the stock market and many other factors. The PFD is calculated by the following steps:[16]
Add Fund Statutory Net Income from the current plus the previous four fiscal years.
Multiply by 21%
Divide by 2
Subtract prior year obligations, expenses and PFD program operations
Divide by the number of eligible applicants
Simple Wiki search demonstrates your ignorance Reilly. Zip up and zip it.
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zBrown
Ice climber
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Nov 21, 2017 - 10:23pm PT
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When was the permanent fund created? Never mind
The Alaska Permanent Fund is a constitutionally established permanent fund managed by a state-owned corporation, the Alaska Permanent Fund Corporation (APFC).[1] It was established in Alaska in 1976[2] by Article 9, Section 15 of the Alaska State Constitution[3] under Governor Jay Hammond. From February 1976 until April 1980, the Department of Revenue Treasury Division managed the state's Permanent Fund assets, until, in 1980, the Alaska State Legislature created the APFC.[4] As of the end of 2016, the fund is worth nearly $55 billion that has been funded by oil revenues.[5]
Shortly after the oil from Alaska’s North Slope began flowing to market through the Trans-Alaska Pipeline System, the Permanent Fund was created by an amendment to the Alaska Constitution. It was designed to be an investment where at least 25% of the oil money would be put into a dedicated fund for future generations, who would no longer have oil as a resource.[6] This does not mean the fund is solely funded by oil revenue. The Fund includes neither property taxes on oil company property nor income tax from oil corporations, so the minimum 25% deposit is closer to 11% if those sources were also considered.[Context?] The Alaska Permanent Fund sets aside a certain share of oil revenues to continue benefiting current and all future generations of Alaskans. Many citizens[who?] also believed that the legislature too quickly and too inefficiently spent the $900 million bonus the state got in 1969 after leasing out the oil fields. This belief spurred a desire to put some oil revenues out of direct political control.
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But see TLP below
Yakety yak.
Don't talk back
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TLP
climber
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Nov 21, 2017 - 10:26pm PT
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Yakking about the money is a digression. The real problem is that consuming all the fossil fuels just in currently operating wells and (coal) mines blows the world right past the 2 degree C target (which is probably too high to avoid major adverse effects. Add proven undeveloped reserves to that consumption, and we're literally toast (except the coastal folks who will be underwater).
Alaska is happy to get all this money. Is the state saving some of it to deal with the infrastructure costs that are already resulting from melting of permafrost and other climate change effects? And future costs which will be much higher?
We do not need to find and pump any more new oil fields in Alaska, period. It is simply time to start tapering off on the fossil fuel burning. Petroleum is a great raw material for other purposes, we just need to burn less of it.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 22, 2017 - 05:55am PT
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Petroleum is a great raw material for other purposes, we just need to burn less of it.
Exactly...
If one believes that humans are contributing to global warming or not doesn't much matter. To me it just makes sense to use less of a finite resource.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 22, 2017 - 06:33am PT
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fear...Your recent posts are making too much sense..did someone hijack your account...?
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:24am PT
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President trump said that Roy Moore’s opponent Doug Jones is “terrible on crime.”
Jones was a federal prosecutor who helped convict klansmen who blew up an Alabama church.
I guess Jones’ prosecution of those “fine people” klansmen make him terrible on crime.
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Craig Fry
Trad climber
So Cal.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:39am PT
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When Has Trump Been Accused of Rape or Attempted Rape? Allegations Include a Child, His Wife and a Business Associate
http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-rape-sexual-assault-minor-wife-business-victims-roy-moore-713531
In 1994, Trump went to a party with Jeffrey Epstein, a billionaire who was a notorious registered sex offender, and raped a 13-year-old girl that night in what was a "savage sexual attack," according to a lawsuit filed in June 2016 by "Jane Doe." The account was corroborated by a witness in the suit, who claimed to have watched as the child performed various sexual acts on Trump and Epstein even after the two were advised she was a minor.
"Immediately following this rape Defendant Trump threatened me that, were I ever to reveal any of the details of Defendant Trump’s sexual and physical abuse of me, my family and I would be physically harmed if not killed," Jane Doe wrote in the lawsuit, filed in New York.
The lawsuit was dropped in November 2016, just four days before the election, with Jane Doe's attorneys citing "numerous threats" against her.
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:43am PT
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Craig,
It’s the transsexuals in bathrooms we need to worry about, not Roy Moore or Donald Trump. They are defenders of western Judeo-Christian values draining the swamp.
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fear
Ice climber
hartford, ct
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:56am PT
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fear...Your recent posts are making too much sense..did someone hijack your account...?
You sure you wanted the red pill? The rabbit hole is really deep. :)
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guyman
Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
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Nov 22, 2017 - 03:00pm PT
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why is the gop pushing an unpopular tax plan?
xCon.... easy to answer. The Republicans are showing how weak and ineffective they really are. It was much easier to be on the outs, with the democrats in power, and just scream bloody murder at all the things wrong with the USA.
They did allow Donald Trump to take over their Party after all.
So at this last minute... second they must "do something- anything"
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Bushman
climber
The state of quantum flux
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Nov 22, 2017 - 03:15pm PT
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Only the Loathly
I'm not a religious man
Can't say I believe in much
On the power of good and evil
Let's say some have an evil touch
If Jesus visited the White House
To check on things 'round there
Would they even bid him welcome
Or offer him a beer?
Don't know much about religion
I don't think there's much to tell
But if god himself went there to call
He could not stand the smell
If I'm only a loathsome sinner
I'd say that's just as well
At least I'm not like Donald Trump
Who's working his way to hell
I don't have a crystal ball now
And my politics don't quite fit
If his wealthy compadres joined him there
I would not give a ....
Can't say I believe in religion
And I'm rarely a travelin' man
But the way this country is heading
I'll be moving to Mazatlan
-bushman
11/22/2017
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Contractor
Boulder climber
CA
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Nov 22, 2017 - 03:54pm PT
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X Con-why is the gop pushing an unpopular tax plan? I'm a small business owner in California with some rentals and kids going into college. My tax man says I'm fuked in a couple of years after the bait and switch carrot is gone.
The average Trump supporter is equally fuked when their pie in the sky GDP projections don't pan out and the corporations keep their jobs and revenue offshore.
I generally don't question how another person votes but in this instance- you people are fools!
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 05:27pm PT
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You people just don't get it ever.
Why ... because you really ARE st00pid!
The world IS run by the elite not you slaves and no matter how much you bitch and moan they will roooool you into the ground.
You politards are the dumbest, brainwashed and st00pidest of em all.
Keep on whining you fools .......
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:12pm PT
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You people just don't get it ever.
Why ... because you really ARE st00pid!
That's why we need you, Lord Werner!
We are st00pid, but we know you are wise, and we anxiously await the day you stop flinging poo at us and instead share your wisdom. We don't care that you have called us st00pid in over 25,000 posts on Supertopo because we know that, when the time is right, you will lead us to enlightenment.
Until then, we all bow in awe at your poo-flinging. It's what we come to Supertopo for. Yes, that's right. It may seem as though we want to engage in discussion of many things that affect our own daily lives, and the world our children will grow up in, but that is just a cover for the fact that all we all really want is for you to sh#t in our communal punchbowl.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:25pm PT
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I knew you would show up Ghost.
I wrote especially just for you in mind Ghost, since you take yourself sooo seriously here ..... you poor little thing.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Nov 22, 2017 - 07:34pm PT
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The path to gross un-stoopideness requires drinking from Lord Pooflings punch bowl...
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