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Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 4, 2014 - 10:26am PT
My discursive life sucks so bad.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Aug 4, 2014 - 10:52am PT

..., mind you...

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High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Aug 4, 2014 - 11:06am PT
I saw that a couple days ago somewhere, luckiest girl in the world that day. That should be her "Lucky Tree" now for the rest of her life! Either that specific tree or the species. Never figured out what the lure was there, apparently hikers climbing up there is an ongoing problem wherever that is.

More can-do power...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xAB9-VGIkzM

The can-do abilities of living things, whether automata or not. Amazing!
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Aug 4, 2014 - 11:42am PT
I do like the concept of can-do power.

As for ascaris, those are the least harmful and easiest to get rid of worms. Whipworms, hookworms and tapeworms are all much worse. And then there are the protozoa. Speaking of evolution though, the latest theory about the rise of asthma and allergies all over the developed world is thought to be related to the fact that we no longer have those parasites so our immune system attack us instead. We can't win for losing it seems.

And I would also like to recommend the article in the NYT that MikeL referred to up above. Blue should read it just to see another totally different view of spirituality and the scientists too so they might understand that the choice is not just between monotheistic Abrahamic traditions and science.
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Aug 4, 2014 - 11:57am PT
. . . and the scientists too so they might understand that the choice is not just between monotheistic Abrahamic traditions and science (Jan)

This is a joke, right?
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Aug 4, 2014 - 11:59am PT
Knowledge can liberate because epistemic error is the primary source of anguish, and knowledge is an antidote to error. I might err, for example, if I believe that I only need to satisfy my current desires in order to be happy. The antidote is the knowledge that the satisfaction of one desire serves only to generate another.

According to the Nyaya philosopher Vatsyayana, this is why philosophy is important. Doing philosophy is the way we cultivate our epistemic skills, learning to tell sound doxastic practices from bogus ones, and the cultivation of epistemic skills is what stops the merry-go-round between cognitive error and mental distress. So it isn’t that philosophy and religion are not distinct, but that there is a meta-theory about their relationship.

Is there any connection between this kind of "epistemic skills" and skilled use of proper scientific method?
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 4, 2014 - 12:06pm PT
Can do power?

Didn't Richard Simmions coin that term in the 80's!

"Come on Ladies, use your Can do Powers!"

And 1, and 2, and 3...
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Aug 4, 2014 - 12:20pm PT

The Orphic Hymn to Dionysos (Χαίρε Νύμφη)
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Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 4, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
There was just the stapler.

There were no staples.

There was no paper to staple.

I took the stapler to Goodwill.

All that remained was no-stapler.
Tvash

climber
Seattle
Aug 4, 2014 - 01:00pm PT
Hinduism embraces magic, but I will credit it for avoiding the pitfalls of sacred text literalism, monotheism, and rejection, rather than pursuit, of knowledge so regrettably promoted by the more fundamentalist Christian sects.

It would seem that Hinduism also gave birth to Largo's idea of a Universal Self/Sentience Field/Void. This idea may not be entirely without merit scientifically in that once thoughts unique to the individual are stripped away some base level of consciousness remains - and that may well look more similar than different for us all.

Meanwhile: How to Keep Automata Happy:

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/08/140804151413.htm
Jan

Mountain climber
Colorado, Nepal & Okinawa
Aug 4, 2014 - 01:49pm PT
This is a joke, right?

There are scientists and then there are scientists on this thread.
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Aug 4, 2014 - 01:52pm PT

As there's police and there's police... and then there's film...
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Unsound method... or even no method at all...

... though still recirculation...
WBraun

climber
Aug 4, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
Tvash -- "Hinduism embraces magic, ..."

This right here proves you just continually make up sh!t on the fly that never exists.

There's no such thing as Hinduism.

The word Hindu came from the Muslims who couldn't pronounce the Sindhu River properly.

In the entire Vedas there's no such word as Hindu.

Hinduism is a word created by those who have no clue ......
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Aug 4, 2014 - 05:29pm PT
"Come on Ladies, use your Can do Powers!"


Excellent, BB!
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Aug 4, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
Werner, try googling Hinduism. In fact, just type it...it doesn't turn red (unlike googling).
WBraun

climber
Aug 4, 2014 - 05:42pm PT
Intelligence does not come from Google nor is it measured from Google.

Intelligence does not come from Wikipedia nor is it measured from Wikipedia.

And those in poor fund of knowledge will remain in academics .......
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Aug 4, 2014 - 05:45pm PT
And those in poor fund of knowledge will remain in academics .......


I am afraid you may be correct. Sad.


;>|
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 4, 2014 - 06:20pm PT
Speaking of evolution though, the latest theory about the rise of asthma and allergies all over the developed world is thought to be related to the fact that we no longer have those parasites so our immune system attack us instead. We can't win for losing it seems.

it is an interesting concept that our health depends only on our body, and not the interaction with the environment, that would include all the things that live "on us" too.

The recent epiphany is that we are better thought of as "ecosystems" our individual organism being a member (in terms of individual organisms, a minority member, and even accounting for total number of cells).

Our "health" is more tied up with the health of that ecosystem then we ever thought of before (but Werner will no doubt remind me that that is an old idea).
eeyonkee

Trad climber
Golden, CO
Aug 4, 2014 - 06:30pm PT
Ed, may I say that your seeming fixation on all of these bugs that inhabit us is, well frankly, giving me the creeps. Can't we come up with a hypothesis that doesn't involve the Borg (or many of them)?
jgill

Boulder climber
Colorado
Aug 4, 2014 - 06:35pm PT
What I want to know is, if our bodies are ecosystems, where does "I" dwell?

Is "I" like the queen ant in a monstrous anthill?

These things are puzzling.
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