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jstan
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Dec 16, 2009 - 02:06pm PT
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The thing that really comes through is that 2000 years ago people were fighting bitterly over who
was the true believer.
John MacArthur continues the self same dialog above.
With Gobee providing us the lyrics.
No change.
After 2000 years?
So it comes down to this. Believers like everything just the way it is.
Perhaps that is what all of this is about.
Really seems to be.
Even after we have tunnelled through into parallel universes and have shown Einstein missed
something, when we get back home people will still be claiming to be the only true believers
and Gobee will be providing the lyrics.
Now mind you all of this is hypothesis. But think back to my statement "evil attaches itself to good."
Christ tried to teach us something new.
His "believers" seem determined to maintain the staus quo at any cost and have successfully done so for 2000 years.
If that ain't attachment, I don't know what is.
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TripL7
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'dago
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Dec 16, 2009 - 02:11pm PT
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jstan- "41 dollars".
jstan- "41 drachmas".
John, what is your point about the 41 whatever?
That is merely one option!!
You can listen to the sermon for free!
Click on "Listen"!
Or you can read the sermon/lecture for free!
Just click on "Read"!
That is what I did this morning when you first posted the John MacArthur thread.
Or, if you are so inclined you can evidently by all nine CD package for forty one dollars! I never have! I usually read it or listen to it for FREE!!!
Most people do. So what is the issue??
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WBraun
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Dec 16, 2009 - 02:15pm PT
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MacArthur has stated that the "theology of Islam is false," and that Allah is the "wrong god.
He's definitely a very confused man ......
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jstan
climber
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Dec 16, 2009 - 02:22pm PT
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Indeed.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 16, 2009 - 02:33pm PT
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He's definitely a very confused man ......
MacArthur is confused, but you are knott? Therein lies the dilemma of authority.
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WBraun
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Dec 16, 2009 - 02:40pm PT
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Healyje
You're a very confused man too ...........
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Gobee
Trad climber
Los Angeles
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Dec 16, 2009 - 02:40pm PT
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Even the Jewish people don't believe that Jesus is the Messiah, same God, but not the way God say's to believe! I know that they will believe in Him one day and they will be the best Christians because they are the natural branches, same with the Muslims.
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jstan
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Dec 16, 2009 - 02:42pm PT
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Dilemma: a choice or situation involving choice between equally unsatisfactory alternatives
Hypothesis:
Humans or a subset of humans are unable to handle dilemma.
So a better alternative
is invented.
Edit:
Take Jeff, for example. (Please!)
Taking a deadly serious thread
and trying to have fun with it.
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WBraun
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Dec 16, 2009 - 02:51pm PT
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Actually Jeff's post is not really a joke although he would like it to be seen in that light.
His statement is the religion of gross materialism.
Sectarianism as religion is what causes the problems.
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 16, 2009 - 02:55pm PT
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You're a very confused man too ........
How do you know you aren't the confused one? I'm more inclined to think the more absolute you're beliefs are in this realm, the more confused you are.
Oh, and was that a hell yes vote for angels, demons, and invisible armies?
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WBraun
climber
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:01pm PT
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As one approaches the intersection, ....
Speeding down the road the light turns red
Question all authority, I do not believe this red light means stop today for its my holiday .....
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jstan
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:04pm PT
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When you hear someone claim another is a false prophet you are hearing someone who is counting on there being no proof either way.
Assertions are easy.
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WBraun
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:09pm PT
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Follow the disciplic succession on anything to the root to get your real answers ...
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:14pm PT
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For claiming the answers and knowing tha absolute, supreme relative, I still can't help but think many of your posts would make good fortune cookies.
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WBraun
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:19pm PT
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Yes whatever you say Supreme master healyje ......
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:32pm PT
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What I say is I prefer my confusion to yours, given all confusion, like belief, appears to be equal. But, I would have thought with such certain authority came clear, simple answers. That's obviously not the case - must be one of those grasshopper deals.
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WBraun
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:34pm PT
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Your conclusion
Question all authority, I do not believe this red light means stop today for its my holiday .....
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:40pm PT
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Question all authority, unless it's your chosen scripture, then I suppose it's all just a matter of what color the light is and how many drinks you've had as the other drivers see whatever color light their scripture dictates.
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jstan
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:44pm PT
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This is an excellent example of a situation where we need just a little help from god.
And.......
And........
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WBraun
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Dec 16, 2009 - 03:47pm PT
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healyje -- "then I suppose"
You're whole arguments are strictly based on pure guessing and speculations compounded by your veiled biases, as you really have no actual knowledge pertaining to this.
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