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fear

Ice climber
hartford, ct
Mar 7, 2016 - 01:20pm PT
Craig, your blind rage against Trump isn't letting you think clearly.

Perhaps Trump has murdered people. It wouldn't surprise me.

But Hillary certainly has, as Secretary of Defense she fully supported, and encouraged the coup in Libya which has, and continues to, kill thousands of innocent people. She glibly refuses to admit any wrongdoing too.

The circus of this entire election is so farcical it could be an Onion article.

Everyone has become preconditioned to think they have a choice. You don't. The evil will persist. Aside from wedge issues (guns/weed/gays/etc), the empire will continue to rape and pillage.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 7, 2016 - 01:21pm PT
You forgot one of his accomplishments....and we are talking progress of massive proportions

Its OK, he doesn't like to brag about it much.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 7, 2016 - 01:26pm PT
this Country of ours is in a better place now, since Obama has been President...

FACT!!!...


This country added $10 Trillion dollars, a 100% increase in debt since Obama has been president.


FACT!!!!
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 7, 2016 - 01:27pm PT
For that kind of money I don't want some crappy ObeezyCare doctor. I want the "thorough" kind.
Norton

Social climber
Mar 7, 2016 - 01:49pm PT

explain how Donald Trump gets to 270 Electoral Votes.......

dirtbag

climber
Mar 7, 2016 - 01:53pm PT
That image would justifiably eliminate any other candidate. Yet in the primaries, trump keeps on ticking.
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 7, 2016 - 02:04pm PT
explain how Donald Trump gets to 270 Electoral Votes.......

ES&S
Norton

Social climber
Mar 7, 2016 - 02:11pm PT
What does that acronym mean?
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Mar 7, 2016 - 02:27pm PT
Bloomberg is OUT!


The Risk I Will Not Take

MAR 7, 2016 5:00 PM EST
By Michael R. Bloomberg

Americans today face a profound challenge to preserve our common values and national promise.

Wage stagnation at home and our declining influence abroad have left Americans angry and frustrated. And yet Washington, D.C., offers nothing but gridlock and partisan finger-pointing.

Worse, the current presidential candidates are offering scapegoats instead of solutions, and they are promising results that they can’t possibly deliver. Rather than explaining how they will break the fever of partisanship that is crippling Washington, they are doubling down on dysfunction.

Over the course of American history, both parties have tended to nominate presidential candidates who stay close to and build from the center. But that tradition may be breaking down. Extremism is on the march, and unless we stop it, our problems at home and abroad will grow worse.

Many Americans are understandably dismayed by this, and I share their concerns. The leading Democratic candidates have attacked policies that spurred growth and opportunity under President Bill Clinton -- support for trade, charter schools, deficit reduction and the financial sector. Meanwhile, the leading Republican candidates have attacked policies that spurred growth and opportunity under President Ronald Reagan, including immigration reform, compromise on taxes and entitlement reform, and support for bipartisan budgets. Both presidents were problem-solvers, not ideological purists. And both moved the country forward in important ways.

Over the last several months, many Americans have urged me to run for president as an independent, and some who don’t like the current candidates have said it is my patriotic duty to do so. I appreciate their appeals, and I have given the question serious consideration. The deadline to answer it is now, because of ballot access requirements.

My parents taught me about the importance of giving back, and public service has been an important part of my life. After 12 years as mayor of New York City, I know the personal sacrifices that campaigns and elected office require, and I would gladly make them again in order to help the country I love.

I’ve always been drawn to impossible challenges, and none today is greater or more important than ending the partisan war in Washington and making government work for the American people -- not lobbyists and campaign donors. Bringing about this change will require electing leaders who are more focused on getting results than winning re-election, who have experience building small businesses and creating jobs, who know how to balance budgets and manage large organizations, who aren’t beholden to special interests -- and who are honest with the public at every turn. I’m flattered that some think I could provide this kind of leadership.

But when I look at the data, it’s clear to me that if I entered the race, I could not win. I believe I could win a number of diverse states -- but not enough to win the 270 Electoral College votes necessary to win the presidency.

In a three-way race, it’s unlikely any candidate would win a majority of electoral votes, and then the power to choose the president would be taken out of the hands of the American people and thrown to Congress. The fact is, even if I were to receive the most popular votes and the most electoral votes, victory would be highly unlikely, because most members of Congress would vote for their party’s nominee. Party loyalists in Congress -- not the American people or the Electoral College -- would determine the next president.

As the race stands now, with Republicans in charge of both Houses, there is a good chance that my candidacy could lead to the election of Donald Trump or Senator Ted Cruz. That is not a risk I can take in good conscience.

I have known Mr. Trump casually for many years, and we have always been on friendly terms. I even agreed to appear on “The Apprentice” -- twice. But he has run the most divisive and demagogic presidential campaign I can remember, preying on people’s prejudices and fears. Abraham Lincoln, the father of the Republican Party, appealed to our “better angels.” Trump appeals to our worst impulses.

Threatening to bar foreign Muslims from entering the country is a direct assault on two of the core values that gave rise to our nation: religious tolerance and the separation of church and state. Attacking and promising to deport millions of Mexicans, feigning ignorance of white supremacists, and threatening China and Japan with a trade war are all dangerously wrong, too. These moves would divide us at home and compromise our moral leadership around the world. The end result would be to embolden our enemies, threaten the security of our allies, and put our own men and women in uniform at greater risk.

Senator Cruz’s pandering on immigration may lack Trump’s rhetorical excess, but it is no less extreme. His refusal to oppose banning foreigners based on their religion may be less bombastic than Trump’s position, but it is no less divisive.

We cannot “make America great again” by turning our backs on the values that made us the world’s greatest nation in the first place. I love our country too much to play a role in electing a candidate who would weaken our unity and darken our future -- and so I will not enter the race for president of the United States.

However, nor will I stay silent about the threat that partisan extremism poses to our nation. I am not ready to endorse any candidate, but I will continue urging all voters to reject divisive appeals and demanding that candidates offer intelligent, specific and realistic ideas for bridging divides, solving problems, and giving us the honest and capable government we deserve.

For most Americans, citizenship requires little more than paying taxes. But many have given their lives to defend our nation -- and all of us have an obligation as voters to stand up on behalf of ideas and principles that, as Lincoln said, represent “the last best hope of Earth.” I hope and pray I’m doing that.
Craig Fry

Trad climber
So Cal.
Mar 7, 2016 - 02:28pm PT
Those crappy ObezzyCare Doctors???
They have special doctors now????

Did they go to a special school??

Locker
as we all know, you can't argue with stupid
they have no interest in change
Norton

Social climber
Mar 7, 2016 - 02:40pm PT
Those crappy ObezzyCare Doctors???

?

which one of our 14 year olds said that?
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 7, 2016 - 02:41pm PT
[Click to View YouTube Video]
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 7, 2016 - 02:43pm PT
For $10 trillion dollars, you'd think the country would at least get a reach around.
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 7, 2016 - 03:15pm PT
Let me break it down for ya. Through 2012, the cost of Bush's policies was $5.1 trillion, and the cost of Obama's policies was $983 billion.

Exercise for the reader, get the 'through 2016' numbers.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 7, 2016 - 03:19pm PT
Crappy docs? Just be glad they're not Canadian. My bro-in-law barely survived a bout
with three retarded Canadian docs. My wife finally diagnosed him over the phone and told
him to get his ass to the ER toute d' suite and TELL them to pull their heads outta their asses.
Phukking pathetic. Did I mention he had MRSA? I guess it's no big in the Great White North.
Norton

Social climber
Mar 7, 2016 - 03:20pm PT
true

in addition, the House has been in strong Republican majority since 2010

the House per our Constitution is the spending branch of government, all major
spending programs must be voted on and approved by the House

per the 14 year old's logic, therefore every dollar added to the deficit and national debt since 2010 belongs to the party he will be old enough to vote for someday
Escopeta

Trad climber
Idaho
Mar 7, 2016 - 03:40pm PT
Last time I checked, Obreezy signs them too....


Your guy doubled the national debt. I wouldn't want to talk about that either if he was my homeboy.
Norton

Social climber
Mar 7, 2016 - 04:02pm PT
Reading problem?

Your Republicans doubled the debt

Do you still not understand our Constitution

You cannot accept that every major spending bill
since 2010 was voted and passed by your House Repubs
zBrown

Ice climber
Mar 7, 2016 - 04:56pm PT



Happiegrrrl2

Trad climber
Mar 7, 2016 - 04:56pm PT
Question: I know that Bloomberg needed to commit to running before a predetermined date, and it was some time in March. What I am wondering is - would that rule also pertain to a candidate who is currently running on a ticket?

Say, Trump get's dumped from the GOP at some point, even as a surprise at the convention - would he then be able to 3rd party it, or must he have committed to 3rd party run before some deadline like that with applied to Bloomberg?

I ask because it occurred to me that maybe the RNC is waiting for such a deadline to pass before telling Trump "YOU'RE FIRED!"
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