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philo
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Israeli Soldier Shoots American Art Student in Face
http://salem-news.com/articles/may312010/israel-girl-shot.php
Her name is Emily Henochowicz.
She is an AMERICAN and an art student at the prestigious Cooper Union, located in East Village, Manhattan.
I hope her parents are really pissed off and wealthy enough to make a BIG legal nightmare for NuttyYahoo.
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philo
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The Fat man and other cerebral-cortex refugees would try to convince everyone that the Arab world is stuck in some past century. Well wake up and smell the hypocrisy. Then face the fact that it is not Fundamentalist Muslims who are threatening a "Clash of Civilizations". It is FUNDAMENTALISM that is the real danger. Fundamentalism of all kinds including American and Israeli.
These folks seem so modern and tolerate.
http://www.haaretz.com/haaretz-authors-edition/the-colors-of-racism-1.293669
Published 00:44 02.06.10Latest update 00:44 02.06.10
The colors of racism
Even Iran is not as bad as Immanuel, where they make Jewish girls of differing ethnic stripe wear different colored uniforms.
By Sami Michael
This article is part of a special edition of Haaretz, to mark Israel's book week.
children in Immanuel.
Photo by: Moti Milrod
My nerves are tingling and my flesh is crawling as I write these lines. This is a small story about two girls attending the same school who became friends and who are now required, by racist order, to wear school uniforms of different colors.
They have been forbidden to come in contact with each other and in order to make the prohibition concrete, a fence covered with an opaque cloth has been stretched between them. They preserve their friendship by passing notes through a hole in the fence.
This story did not happen in the days of apartheid South Africa or in the dark times before the civil rights movement in the United States or in a ghetto in an insane Europe during World War II.
The two schoolgirls wearing uniforms of different colors are Jewish girls from the Israeli settlement of Immanuel in the West Bank, which is flourishing under the flag and armed protection of the Israel Defense Forces. The school also receives funding courtesy of the Israeli taxpayer.
The two schoolgirls' crime is their different ethnic origins. One is an Ashkenazi Jew, whose family's roots are in Europe, and her friend is a Mizrahi Jew, whose family comes from Middle Eastern and North African countries. Was it for this that the state of Israel forged its path through rivers of the blood of its sons and its enemies?
Even in the darkest days in Iraq, Egypt and Lebanon, they never separated Jews from Muslims and Christians in schools.
One of the initiators of the segregation in Immanuel commented: "This isn't ethnic separation, but rather religious." He was right, but only partially. Indeed, this separation is not ethnic but rather "racist," a word rarely used, even by those of courageous and honest determination.
The Supreme Court's justices, whom I see as the last bastion of democracy in Israel, used the term "discrimination."
To my regret, intellectuals whose voice resounds from time to time from here and abroad have sealed their lips. They and the vast majority of Israeli society used to think of "discrimination" as something unclean. What? Here? In our enlightened country?
Along came the righteous Supreme Court justices, headed by Edmond Levy and Hanan Melcer, who smashed the taboo and used the despised word "discrimination."
Let us imagine for a moment a school, say in Germany or Britain, which puts up a separation fence for "religious" reasons, as the Immanuel racists claimed, and compels the Jewish students to wear a uniform of a different color. What a ruckus we would be raising!
I have personally met the current head of the Jewish community in Tehran and I have conversed with many Iranian expatriates in Europe and the United States. I am also in touch with combative elements in Iran. I can attest that Jewish schoolchildren and students living in Iran today are not required to wear clothing of a different color.
How has it happened that rabbis, at least in Immanuel, are even more benighted than the ayatollahs we excoriate and abominate day and night? And why have the intellectuals here mostly disappeared?
I am glad the president has not been silent and has not shut his ears to this horror. In a meeting with young people at his official residence he said if he were their age he would go out and demonstrate against this injustice.
One can understand him. Age has its limitations. I have reached the age of 84 and now it seems to me that every single year weighs a ton. However, the color of the uniforms forced on the schoolgirls in Immanuel has also been forced on me and my children and my grandchildren, who are Ashkenazi and Mizrahi at the same time.
Let's call a spade a spade: The lords of Immanuel are racists who imperil the values of Judaism and democracy. Since my adolescence I have been fighting their sort no matter what their race, religion and heritage. This separation fence of defilement, which shady rabbis plot to plant in our souls, must be uprooted.
I will not demonstrate in Immanuel. Even though the name of the town means "God is with us," obviously he is no longer there. I will however, definitely demonstrate during the celebration of Hebrew Book Week, for a school is called "the house of the book" in Hebrew.
I will show up on my own with a modest placard at Rabin Square at the Kinneret Zmora-Bitan Publishers' booth on Wednesday, June 9, at 7:00 P.M. Every man, woman and teenager will be welcome to join me to extirpate the racist crime in Immanuel today - and should we remain silent, in all of Israel tomorrow.
The writer's latest novel "Aida" was published in Hebrew by Kinneret Zmora-Bitan. He is the president of the Association for Civil Rights in Israel.
And don't forget that this is made possible by your American Tax Dollars. Woo Hoo! Party on Shlomo.
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bookworm
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well, philo is right about one thing...muslims are not living in some past century; i mean, youtube is only a decade old:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi-c6lbFGC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFnbNy6MMDA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvE5K9W6UUk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFz8DwvJP6Q
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAHHjfUxERY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Em-MnAYiEWk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEcaI7zQG3E
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI2ivZA2-Z4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkNE__TiMZo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIBNRVgq59Y
now the sad part about this (i mean, besides the obvious indoctrinating of children to truly hate jews and long for death in the name of allah) is that philo will ignore what the palestinians themselves proudly display on tv for the whole world to see and he'll probably drag out the tired "fundamentalism" meme and reference the inquisition (which actually did occur in a past century) and maybe throw in a tim mcveigh allusion and something about pedophile priests because he can't confront the plain truth (truth not according to me but entirely from the mouths of palestinian babies) that hamas (you know, those "freedom fighters" who rule gaza and call for the destruction of israel in their own charter, again, posted proudly on the web for all to see) daily launch unguided rockets into israeli territory every day, which inspired the israelis to set up the blockade and motivated them to board the boat so they could search it for weapons which is when they were attacked by knife and steel pipe bearing "peace activists" (again, as clearly shown on video posted on the web for all to see) who clearly were not intimidated by the paintball guns the israeli soldiers were carrying, you know, to avoid hurting the people who were attacking them
yep, i can see why people hate jews so much...i mean, which is more civilized and conducive to peace: a jihad-spewing mickey mouse/bugs bunny or bar rafaeli?
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philo
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Hey Sperm Burp (aka Bookworm), do you really swallow that sh#t?
Sh#t like all Jews are victims and all Palestinians are terrorists and Israel is under constant and imminent threat of destruction by the omnipotent Arab armies massed to drive them into the sea.
Google U.S.S. Liberty and then tell me how you would justify that act of war against America?
How do you justify the deliberate targeting of an American Peace Activist in the West Bank? Some big brave IDF soldier shot her directly in the face with a tear gas canister. Is it all okie dokie with you because starving and desperate Gazans fire ineffectual rockets into what is Palestinian Occupied Territory?
You are an IDIOT to assume I hate Jews. I certainly despise Zionism and will fight against it till my dying breath. But if you asked all my Jewish family, friends and clients about my opinion of Jews you would likely be surprised by their responses.
So why do you hate the most disenfranchised and oppressed people on Planet Earth?
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philo
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There you go again Fats, regurgitating the same old hackneyed zionist lying narrative.
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philo
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No, I assert it wasn't the great deal you claim it to have been. It was a sham being force fed to Arafat. He absolutely should have driven away.
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philo
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So Fats, how many innocent unarmed peace activists will the IDF murder on the open seas when the flotilla sponsored by Ireland arrives in the near future.
How good will it be to have a million or more armed and drunken Irishmen on your bad side?
Erin go braugh.
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philo
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How about Emily Henochowicz Fats? Care to spin an AIPAC approved fantasy explanation.
An eye for an eye. Her lost one and Israel's blackened one. Seems almost fair.
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philo
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Mystery solved: flotilla cargo contents revealed!
http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/mystery-solved-flotilla-cargo-contents-revealed.html
How could they allow this dangerous cargo into the hands of desperate and starving people?
The Israelis are such humane and compassionate people they were only protecting the Gazan Palestinians from all those dangerous foreign foods and medicines. I bet the Gazans feel so much better knowing Israel has their back and is protecting them so well.
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philo
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http://sn132w.snt132.mail.live.com/default.aspx?wa=wsignin1.0
On Monday, May 31, in an appalling and outrageous act, the Israeli military attacked the Gaza Freedom Flotilla, a civilian flotilla bringing humanitarian aid to the people of Gaza, in international waters, killing several civilians and wounding dozens of others.
Virtually the entire world has spoken out against Israel's attack and called for a lifting of Israel's siege of Gaza. The European Union called for "an immediate, sustained and unconditional opening of the crossings for the flow of humanitarian aid, commercial goods and persons to and from Gaza." Greece, Egypt, Spain, Sweden and Denmark recalled their Ambassadors to Israel. Several other European countries, the Arab League, and the African Union condemned the attack.
http://www.aaper.org/site/lookup.asp?c=quIXL8MPJpE&b=6069609
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philo
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Mostly militarily impotent neighbors Jeff.
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bookworm
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when peace activists go bad:
http://palwatch.org/main.aspx?fi=157&doc_id=2323
philo, it's not about what was on the boat...the israelis are not blockading food, medicine, etc,; they're blockading weapons and demand that all boats be searched for weapons...in fact, the israelis invited the flotilla to dock in one of their ports; the "peace activists" refused and tried to run the blockade
no, i don't believe all palestinians are terrorists (though i'll never forget the video of palestinians dancing in the streets on 9/11), but i don't have sympathy when the "oppressed" elect a terrorist organization to rule their territory...strange how the palestinians in the west bank seem to be getting on quite rationally and peacefully with the israelis...and let's not forget the 20% of israel's citizens who are ARAB, most of whom identify themselves as PALESTINIANS and who vote their ARAB/MUSLIM representatives into the knesset and who often and often harshly criticize their government without repraisal either from the government or their fellow jewish citizens...just curious, philo, what do you think would happen if a jew living in gaza (i know, i know, but suspend disbelief for the analogy) openly criticized hamas? or what about a jew living in saudi arabia? or a jew living in iran? or a jew living in...oh, you get the point
no, i think israel is the best possible place for any arab/muslim to live (if they can't get a ride to america)
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dirtbag
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There is no clash of civilizations--that's clear by now. It's a neocon delusion.
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philo
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Oh my where to start...
philo, it's not about what was on the boat...the israelis are not blockading food, medicine, etc,;
IOh yes they are. Why do you think there is a humanitarean crisis in Gaza?
they're blockading weapons and demand that all boats be searched for weapons...
The boats were thoroughly inspected before leaving port. No weapons. There were also inspected by the Israelis in the port os Ashod. No weapons. The IDF knew there were no weapons
in fact, the israelis invited the flotilla to dock in one of their ports; the "peace activists" refused and tried to run the blockade
It is well known that under normal conditions the relief aid would never make it to Gaza
no, i don't believe all palestinians are terrorists (though i'll never forget the video of palestinians dancing in the streets on 9/11),
Well you should forget it because it never happened. Yes you saw a video showing Palestinian kids celebrating in the street, but it has been proven that it was stock footage from a political rally almost two years earlier. The candidate was throwing candy to the kids. Oh course they were cheering and playing, as a kid wouldn't you have. This was nothing more than a very clumsy attempt by the Israelis to lay blame for 911 on the Palestinians who had nothing to do with it.
but i don't have sympathy when the "oppressed" elect a terrorist organization to rule their territory
Strange how you can't recognize that the election of Hamas, an organization originally founded and funded by the Mossad as a counter force to Arafat's Fatah party, was the result of Israel forcing early elections on the Palestinians. If the Israelis would have waited the 18 months for the properly scheduled elections the results would have been different, But the Israeli treatment would be the same, brutal oppression.
...strange how the palestinians in the west bank seem to be getting on quite rationally and peacefully with the israelis
Do you suppose you could site a source for that nonsense statement. How do you come to the belief that things are so peachy keen in the West Bank? Because they are NOT! The beating and killing of innocent Palestinian citizens by illegal settlers is still happening every day. The steeling of land is happening every day. The building of more Jewish homes is happening everyday. If you foolishly believe that things are so great in Gaza why don't you email Emily Henochowicz and ask her how well she thinks things are going.
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philo
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Well Fats, what does any of that have to do with the brutal oppression of the Palestinian?
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philo
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Israel is way to nice.
Stop the nonsense.
The nonsense that has to stop is the NON-sense that you cling to.
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bookworm
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"The Turkish Government as Global Arbiter of Ethnic Violence [Victor Davis Hanson]
The virulent worldwide reaction to Israeli’s handling of the Gaza flotilla has been quite instructive. The bankrupt Greeks, for example, are taking a holiday from railing at the Germans to demonstrate in solidarity with the Turkish-organized Gaza effort, which puts them on the same side as those whose government supports the occupation of much of Greek-speaking Cyprus and its divided capital.
No one in Europe worried much about the constant shower of missiles from Gaza in the past. No one in Europe said a word when North Korea torpedoed and slaughtered South Koreans on the high seas. No one objected when the Iranians hijacked a British ship and humiliated the hostages.
We ourselves seem to be getting a sort of novel pass for executing scores of suspected terrorists — and anyone in their vicinity — in our new, stepped-up Predator drone assassinations.
But the Western and Islamic worlds have a preexisting furor at the Jewish state that can be tapped at will by almost any pro-radical-Palestinian group clever enough to do proper P.R. after a desired asymmetrical confrontation. The fallout from Sharon’s visit to the Temple Mount, the distortions around the 2002 terrorist storming of the Church of Nativity, the 2006 Lebanon war — over time, these incidents do their part, in weird fashion, to incur hatred for a liberal democracy while creating sympathy for a theocratic thugocracy like Hamas.
What explains this preexisting hatred, which ensures denunciation of Israel in the most rabid — or, to use the politically correct parlance, “disproportionate” — terms? It is not about “occupied land,” given the millions of square miles worldwide that are presently occupied, from Georgia to Cyprus to Tibet. It is not a divided capital — Nicosia is walled off. It is not an overreaction in the use of force per se — the Russians flattened Grozny and killed tens of thousands while the world snoozed. And it cannot be the scale of violence, given what we see hourly in Pakistan, Darfur, and the Congo. And, given the Armenian, Greek, and Kurdish histories (and reactions to them), the currently outraged Turkish government is surely not a credible referent on the topic of disproportionate violence.
Perhaps the outrage reflects simple realpolitik — 350 million Arab Muslims versus 7 million Israelis. Perhaps it is oil: half the world’s reserves versus Israel’s nada. Perhaps it is the fear of terror: Draw a cartoon or write a novel offending Islam, and you must go into hiding; defame Jews and earn accolades. Perhaps it is anti-Semitism, which is as fashionable on the academic Left as it used to be among the neanderthal Right.
Perhaps there is also a new sense that the United States at last has fallen into line with the Western consensus, and so is hardly likely to play the old lone-wolf supporter of Israel in the press or at the U.N.
At this point, it doesn’t much matter — as this latest hysterical reaction reminds us, much of the world not only sides with Israel’s enemies but sides with them to such a degree as to suggest that, in any existential moment to come, the world either will be indifferent or will be on the side of Israeli’s enemies.
Quite frightening, when you think of it."
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philo
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By all means Fats if you are ready to admit that you are wrong we are all ears.
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Mighty Hiker
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Well, Fatty, your blind belief that all problems can be solved by the application of grotesque, brute force doesn't exactly reveal you to be a paragon of wisdom and justice.
Edit: Not to mention the parallel, blind beliefs of the Israeli government and military, and its US enablers.
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