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P.Kingsbury

Trad climber

the jeep

Oct 20, 2008 - 01:12pm PT

not sure if i can swing this one or not?

dirt, i thought u played last time or was it jdf just making fun?

haha 'to many goddamn oxis!!!!!'

anyways, no offense but generally free-rolls and dollar tourneys are EASY, because no one knows how to play/ gives a sh#t. so the higher the buy-in means harder competition.....

but maybe not the case here....if your half as good as you say your are, then you should have no problem making the bread.

whats your online poker handle, just curious, so i can see some statistics.

cheers,

patrick

mojede

Trad climber

Butte, America

Oct 20, 2008 - 01:40pm PT

Because it came up at one of the games:

P.Kingsbury

Trad climber

the jeep

Oct 20, 2008 - 01:49pm PT

Blue cookies!!!!

hahaaahaha, don't think ive ever seen those before!1!

hutch: play aq, ak, and bigger pairs, raised preflop, and limp with small-mid pairs after some one else limps first for set value. if ya do that, i think you can make the $$.

just some (really) basic poker strategy, but i've never played with dan harrington....

cheers,

patrick

TKingsbury

Trad climber

Oct 21, 2008 - 12:46pm PT

Bump for tonight's game...hope you can make it brotherman...

Dang, those cookies are really blue Moj! Think I'll stick to the lager...

Any guesses as to the turn out?

I got a lurker friend who I boulder with who might show...

salad

climber

Escondido

Oct 21, 2008 - 01:54pm PT

I probably wont make it. Going to try and visit a friend (from my poker group, btw) who just got out of the hospital after 250ish days.

Prod

Big Wall climber

A place w/o Avitars apparently

Oct 21, 2008 - 02:15pm PT

I can't make it.

Sorry.

Prod.

dirtineye

Trad climber

the south

Oct 21, 2008 - 02:21pm PT

P, only part of my results for the last two weeks are from the great unwashed free rolls, the others, two firsts, a second, and two zips ( out of five events total) are against club players, who are almost all dedicated to playing well. Some of them sit in games with thousands of dollars on the table. (I'm not one of those) I really don't care what the ST crowd thinks about my play, cause my club considers me a dangerous player-- which means I now have to be clever to get action on my good hands, DOH.

And if you think getting though 6000- 25000 people who play like total idiots is easy, give it a try, see how well you do. It's not to hard to sit at a table with one or two idiots and win, but when you get 5 or even 6 calls on a 3-5x BB raise, or EVERYONE at the table tries to limp in every hand, you are playing crapshoot poker. Hell, it's not even poker then, LOL.

IF you do give this a try, I suggest the Razz games. Razz free rolls usually have fewer players, and although razz is a 60% game as opposed to an 80% game ( meaning that in razz the best starting hand A 2 3 only holds up 60% of the time, while in NLH AA holds up 80% of the time) there are soooo many more people who are clueless about razz that anyone with discipline and a slight bit of luck can do much better in those free rolls than in say the limit holdem or stud or omaha or NHL free rolls. PLus, in Razz, good starting hands are extremely well defined. You know exactly what to play and what not to play at a full table. Most people are clueless about this fact in the Razz free rolls.

Since I'm on full disability, and my income is abysmally low, I do not have the bankroll to play 20 dollar games. in case you don't know, a serious player should never play outside his bank roll, because it is entirely possible to lose 10 or twenty games in a row-- even if you make no mistakes. you have to be able to weather that. A good rule of thumb is that your bankroll should cover 100 tournament buy-ins. (that's for a tournament player of course, for live games it's way way different)

So, to play in 20 dollar tournaments, you should be willing to put up 2000 bucks, plus the fees. IF you are good enough, you should be winning and placing in the money 20% of the time or better. THIS is a great outcome, and it's also the reason why the prize fund should pay at least 50-100 times entry for first place, and the rest accordingly-- because you have to be able to pay for that 80% you lose out of your winnings.

You can argue with this theory if you like, but it's not me you're arguing with-- it's guys like Chris Ferguson and Tom MacElroy, and several other pros who write about how to play in tournaments.

mojede

Trad climber

Butte, America

Oct 21, 2008 - 02:31pm PT

The first 3 games were tenny buy-ins, didn't see you there, either. Great comments, though, always a treat to listen to an expert shell out opinions for the little guys (one of whom plays for a living).

Can you give me an opinion on siding installation ? It's cold here today, and I need a good warming laugh.

edit: re-reading upthread a bit: PKingsbury's advice was a relative gold mine compared to the ideas that Curt has offered.

Patrick, thanks for the persy tips online, you could have just called me:-) Also, games are played for many reasons, winning and competition being the big two, but if I were to play for those alone, then I would prolly be not as happy as I think that I am. Give me a well-matched game of racquetball any day to feed me a comp/win fix.

Strider

Trad climber

one of god's mountain temples....

Oct 21, 2008 - 04:03pm PT

See you guys tonight at 6pm sharp!

Edit: Ok guys, I have a chance to do some wide crack climbing tonight so....would it be cool if I had a friend of mine sub in the game? I don't want to back out of the game because I was the guy that organized this match but I also really want to get some climbing in. My friend Chris is about the same in ability, sometimes he beats me, sometimes I beat him, definitely not a ringer. If you guys aren't cool with it then I will probably have to back out of tonight. Sorry for the last minute change but climbing calls!

-n

mojede

Trad climber

Butte, America

Oct 21, 2008 - 04:19pm PT

Why don't we get to see everybody's cards like they do on teevee?

Strider, the more the merrier is what they say.

TKingsbury

Trad climber

Oct 21, 2008 - 04:28pm PT

No worries strider. Have fun on those wide cracks!

Fatty, Tuesdays aren't set in stone...we can try for another day for the next one.

nature

climber

Santa Fe, NM

Oct 21, 2008 - 04:32pm PT

i still need to figure a way to fund my account. And i owe someone $11 from last time. otherwise....

Strider

Trad climber

one of god's mountain temples....

Oct 21, 2008 - 04:39pm PT

nature: to fund a FTP account all you need is $50 and a Visa card. The minimum FTP buy-in is $50 to open an account. It takes about 10 minutes to set-up and fund the account. Pretty darn easy.

-n

Jaybro

Social climber

wuz real!

Oct 21, 2008 - 04:39pm PT

So, Strider, if you're not sharking cards, can I meet you @ a BART station for the journey to Soquel tonight?

nature

climber

Santa Fe, NM

Oct 21, 2008 - 04:41pm PT

Strider: none of my Visa cards work. I tried.

And Jaybro... are you trying to arrange a ride to go climbing? IF so, can we have a little respect around here? This is a climbing forum!!! Keep it to cards! Sheeesh!

salad

climber

Escondido

Oct 21, 2008 - 05:00pm PT

i have an alaska airlines visa through b of a that works, but bofa tags me a $10 cash advance fee.

i think my discover card worked once too.

Jaybro

Social climber

wuz real!

Oct 21, 2008 - 05:13pm PT

Sorry for the OT bs, Nature. I just felt, through the force, that strider was ripe to be dragged toward the dark, wide side, just this once... have fun you guys!